Transcribed by Nan.
Kim 0:02
iON, this has to do with a question specific; it's two parts about the three Jesus's that you talked about. They are all three intermixed in the words we have in the scriptures, correct? Their lives?
iON 0:16
They are, they are. From the temple to the wedding, from the wedding to the temple, to Herod's temple, the rebuilding of the temples. Temples are the explanation of the different temples -- Herod's temple -- are the three examples of the three Jesus's that are parallel through the scriptures. And you know that. That's how you keep them separate.
Kim 0:41
When they were born, was their given name Jesus?
iON 0:46
Yes.
Kim 0:47
Or was that a name given -- okay. So, their actual given name was Jesus and then we call them Christ.
Sara 0:53
The anointed.
Kim 0:55
Right.
Brian 0:56
Well, hold on a second. Were all three of the Jesus's born? Or just one of them born?
Sara 1:00
Were they all anointed?
Bob 1:02
That's a good question because two of them are still alive. So, they never died. So maybe they weren't born.
Kim 1:08
Okay, so they'd be like with Melchizedek, without beginning or ending of days?
Brian 1:12
So, were all three of the Jesus's born? Did they come forth as if by birth?
iON 1:19
Well, then you gotta get back down to what do you mean when you say born?
Brian 1:27
I mean, it's a false premise. I mean, 'cause if we're gonna talk about eternity, the whole...
Sara 1:32
Through the vagina of a woman? Through the vagina of a woman?
Brian 1:34
We can simplify it to the third Jesus 'cause the story with the third Jesus that he was born from the Virgin Mary, but according to you, iON, Mary wasn't no virgin.
iON 1:47
Right. She wasn't.
Kim 1:49
And that was part of my question, because you said that the third Jesus was part angel, and part human God. And the question I had is if that is so and he was crucified, and the veil was rent at that crucifixion, was that veil rent because there was a reconciliation of the two, like the angel...
iON 2:16
No, it was not. It was because of the Ascension.
Kim 2:21
So, he Ascended...
iON 2:24
He had to. If he didn't Ascend, you wouldn't make it back. He had to Ascend so you'd know how to get back.
Brian 2:31
Explain that. He had to Ascend so we can make it back. Are you talking about a man that Ascended to leave us clues? Are you talking -- or is this all a reference that happens inside the meatsack body as one Ascends? Or is it a both/and?
Sara 2:47
It's also "and" as well as. Right? It's always gonna be both/and from now on, right?
iON 2:55
Has to be.
Sara 2:55
We're working with parallels. Right. It's all...
iON 2:57
You are, you are. Right.
Brian 3:00
Okay, no. So, to be clear, when you, when you're saying that Jesus had to Ascend or we're, or we're all just fucked, you're talking about a physical process that's happening inside the physical body that has to happen inside the physical body or you're fucked.
iON 3:15
Well, no, hold on now. That seems a bit cut and dried, doesn't it?
Brian 3:21
Isn't it cut and dry? I mean, I mean,
Sara 3:24
Could it be understood kind of like a scuba suit?
iON 3:28
And you're trying to figure out how to get out of the scuba suit and you can't get out of it, and everything you do still leaves you in the scuba suit. If you get out of the scuba suit, you could be back in your regular body, your Godself. And so you're covered up in this sticky, icky Little Man suit. You're trying to get out of the Little Man. Yes. That's what William "Bellie" was tryin' to show you how to do.
Wendy 3:48
It's Wendy again. A few shows ago you mentioned the line of Seth. And now I am wondering because the blood is so important is there something to do with the bloodline, in fact?
iON 4:06
No, darling, it's just getting you back to God.
Sara 4:09
Is it Set or Seth? Or are they...
iON 4:12
Seth, "th," third son of Adam and Eve, the brother of Cain and Abel.
Wendy 4:20
Was Seth the biological son of the same Adam that fathered Cain and Abel?
iON 4:29
Yes. And his wife was Azura who had Enos, E-n-o-s.
Bob 4:38
Was his wife human?
iON 4:40
Sure, Azura, yeah.
Bob 4:42
Why do you favor Seth? What do you like about Seth? What's special about him?
iON 4:46
He made it. He made it.
Bob 4:49
I see.
iON 4:50
Who was Enos' grandfather?
Bob 4:52
He was the father of Noah.
Sara 4:54
Noah?
Bob 4:54
The grandfather of Noah.
iON 4:57
Yes. Now you're gettin' somewhere. Everybody talks about Cain and Abel, and they didn't do shit.
Brian 5:04
And Cain and Abel was from Adam, right? It wasn't from an angel of Eve.
Bob 5:10
Yeah, they all were from Adam and Eve. Who were the children of Lilith and Adam? Are they named?
iON 5:17
No.
Bob 5:18
Did they have children?
iON 5:20
Yes.
Bob 5:21
They caused the consternation. That was the nature of angel and Sephilim, whatever they're called, and human; that's what caused the floods.
Brian 5:29
Yeah, there's a big meme out there that Eve, when she ate of the tree of knowledge that the whole serpent deal, that she, like Mary, was, had sex with an angel instead of Adam when she conceived Cain.
Wendy 5:46
But that's not true? Is that what you said, iON, earlier, that because Adam is the true father of Cain as well as Seth and Abel. So, Eve didn't have sex with the angel?
iON 6:01
Eve did not, no.
Wendy 6:03
So, the important fact was that he made it.
Bob 6:06
He Ascended. So, did he get kicked out of the Garden of Eden?
iON 6:10
No, he did not.
Bob 6:12
He stayed there.
Sara 6:13
Is that because he hasn't been there yet? Hasn't happened yet? He will be kicked out?
iON 6:20
He won't get kicked out, no. All this is found in Genesis 5, if anybody cares.
Bob 6:27
Is Seth talked about in later parts of the first few books as well?
Brian 6:31
He said that the dragon in 12 was Seth, and the dragon got cast down, so...
iON 6:37
He did, he fell. He certainly did get cast down. He certainly did fall. Yes.
Bob 6:42
Hey Brian, are you talking about Seth, or the dragon fell?
Brian 6:46
Both, they're the same. Same thing. Seth is the dragon.
Bob 6:51
Is Seth the dragon, iON?
iON 6:53
He is.
Bob 6:55
He fell. Seth fell out of the Garden of Eden?
iON 6:59
No, Seth didn't fall out of the Garden of Eden, he fell from God.
Bob 7:04
He stayed in the Garden of Eden. Did he stay in the Garden of Eden?
iON 7:08
No, Cain killed Abel.
Sara 7:11
All the days of Seth were 912.
Brian 7:14
And then Cain went to Nod.
iON 7:16
"Wynken, Blynken, and Nod." [laughs]
Bob 7:20
But Seth stayed home.
iON 7:22
Yeah, and this little piggy went to market.
Sara 7:24
I know! Wee, wee, wee, wee, wee, yes. [iON laughs] Wee, wee, wee, wee, wee, all the way home.
Brian 7:33
You just said that Seth made it. Did Seth make it back to God?
iON 7:37
He did.
Brian 7:39
You made a statement that no one has fallen and then made it back to God. But now you're saying Seth did.
iON 7:46
Yes, they have, Jesus did! He Ascended. That's your whole point. Lots of folks are back to God. Lots of folks are back to God. In the process that you're talkin' about, you're tryin' to, but you're doing well, you're doing fine 'cause you're still God, you just don't know it. You can't let yourself figure that out. We say all of you have. We say all of you have.
Brian 8:07
Okay, that's fine, I know, but you have said that no one, or no Little Man --back then it was Little Man -- has separated himself from God and then made it back. But now we have Seth, Jesus, and you're saying there's been many.
iON 8:22
Yeah.
Sara 8:23
But was Jesus the "first" to do that? Or -
Bob 8:28
No.
iON 8:29
No.
Sara 8:30
- [indistinct] survive.
iON 8:31
Enoch was the first one.
Bob 8:33
Okay, that's
iON 8:35
Yes, he's still alive.
Bob 8:37
Where's Seth hanging out if there's any particular place he likes to be?
iON 8:41
Belgium.
Bob 8:43
What's particular there? He spent a lot of centuries there, you know, it's like his longest place?
iON 8:50
It's fun.
Bob 8:52
He likes Belgium.
Cora 8:54
At birth was it I who exhaled my own soul into my own meatsack?
iON 9:02
As you exhaled, your soul connected, or we say reconnected, back with you, yes. The soul connects to you, you don't connect to a soul. You don't know you need a soul, 'cause before you were born, you don't need a soul. There are no unrealized creations before you're born. You see? So, you need a stenographer to keep track of what's realized and what's unrealized. As you exhale, then your soul connects to you that moment.
Bob 9:36
Who asked that question?
Cora 9:38
Cora.
Alex 9:39
This is Alex. We had an extensive ultrasound yesterday, and we'd like to get some insights on what is going on. My wife is showing all the signs of pregnancy, but the ultrasound just didn't pick up the information. They just couldn't pick up any sounds on it.
iON 9:58
Does she want to be?
Alex 10:01
Yeah, she wants to be, yes.
iON 10:03
She'd better hurry.
Alex 10:06
Oh, okay.
iON 10:07
And now this trying stuff doesn't work. You know this right?
Alex 10:11
Yes.
Bob 10:13
Are you talking about she'd better hurry up 'cause of the closing of the womb?
iON 10:16
Yes. So, here's how this works. Forget about all that they said do. Do you understand?
Alex 10:23
Uh-huh.
iON 10:26
Forget about all that. Forget every bit of every bit of that. The only way she will ever conceive is to get out of the way of it. Does she sort of dig at you?
Alex 10:40
Yeah. [chuckles]
Bob 10:44
Is that Rebecca, Alex?
Alex 10:46
Yeah, that's Rebecca.
iON 10:48
Now here's all you gotta do. Start eating. Eat. Gain 20 pounds.
Alex 10:56
Okay.
iON 10:56
Don't do anything else. Gain 20 pounds, then come back and we'll tell you what to do next.
Alex 11:02
All right, sounds good. We'll do that.
Brian 11:05
You said many times that conception begins with arousal. Can you explain arousal, your meaning of arousal?
iON 11:13
Oh, yeah. When the TT stands up and salutes and says, "Hey y'all, how you doin'?"
Brian 11:19
That's where it begins and then after, after the arousal or at some point you got a gain or in this case this Alex has to gain 20 pounds?
iON 11:28
No, Alex doesn't, but Rebecca does.
Alex 11:30
Okay. Do Ascended women give birth?
iON 11:35
No, they do not. And that's the point, the womb is closing. Now, if she wants a child, she can have a baby, no question about it. But hurry. And when we say hurry, we say forget about it. Just get busy. Eat. Get busy. Focus on gaining 20 pounds. Because what you're gonna find is it's gonna be very, very difficult to gain 20 pounds. Everybody fights to lose weight. Try to gain weight. Try to gain it. Try it, you'll see.
Brian 12:07
iON, can you give me a refresher on that whole topic of Cain being the tiller or worker of ground and Abel was, was, I don't know what was Able, the shepherd? Or he would bring his first yearling offering.
iON 12:26
One was grain, the other was meat. Okay, so the short version. Cain is a crop farmer. His younger brother Abel is a shepherd. Cain was the first human born, and Cain committed the first murder by killing his brother.
Brian 12:47
He was the first human born and he was the first -
iON 12:51
Murderer.
Brian 12:51
- one to -- isn't that a false premise to be a murderer?
iON 12:55
It is, but it's based on how powerful you are. That's why we don't talk about either one of them, we talk about Seth.
Brian 13:02
There's references of there being two different seed lines, the seed line of Cain, and the seed line of Seth. If they're both from Adam and Eve, I don't get what the difference would be between the two seed lines. Would it be the wives?
iON 13:17
Then the question comes, where do they get their wives? But that's another conversation. So, that's where Lilith comes in 'cause that's where that hooks up. [indistinct].
Brian 13:27
Oh, so the two seed lines come in with, because of Lilith?
iON 13:33
Yes.
Brian 13:34
And that would be the Cain side?
iON 13:36
Well, yeah, 'cause Abel got whacked. He got [indistinct].
Brian 13:40
No, I'm talking about Seth between Cain and Seth; the line of Seth and the line of Cain. So, Lilith comes in on the Cain side, and then I think you just mentioned who...
Bob 13:52
Hey, Brian, Cain leaves and he goes to another area, so he married one of those hybrids. Is that true iON? He married a...
iON 13:59
That's right. That's right.
Brian 14:03
So, Cain goes to Nod, but where does Lilith come in? Is Lilith the hybrid you're speaking of, Bob?
iON 14:09
That's the mother of Cain's wife.
Brian 14:13
Lilith is the mother of Cain's wife.
iON 14:16
Yes.
Brian 14:16
And that's the two different seed lines. Okay.
Bob 14:20
What is it about the third Jesus, Brian? The third Jesus was born of a mixed mother or...
Brian 14:27
An angel and Mary. Mary had sex with an angel, so the third Jesus was a half-breed, a Nephilim.
Bob 14:35
He was part of the seed line of Cain, iON?
iON 14:39
Yeah.
Bob 14:41
Third Jesus comes out of Cain, no wonder it was doomed.
Brian 14:44
No, wait a minute. He wasn't doomed because see, iON just said that -- iON just said
Bob 14:48
He overcame it. He overcame it, I know.
Brian 14:50
Right, he says because of his Ascension. Specifically, what's mentioned is the 40 days of Jesus's Ascension. Is the Ascension of Seth and the Ascension of Enoch, is it the same process as in third Jesus or is it different?
iON 15:07
No, no, no, no, listen, listen, listen. Go back to Genesis 4:10 - 4:12. And this is after the murder had taken place. This is that brother's keeper bullshit. If you offer property but divide it improperly, have you not sinned? Be still, to you shall he submit and you shall rule over him. That was five. Later in the narrative God asked Cain, "Where is Able thy brother?" Cain replied, "I know not: Am I my brother's keeper? 10) And he said, What hast thou done? the voice of thy brother's blood crieth unto me from the ground. 11) And now art thou cursed from the earth, which hath opened her mouth to receive thy brother' blood from thy land; 12) When thou tillest the ground, it shall not henceforth yield unto thee her strength; a fugitive and a vagabond shalt thou be in the earth." The blood cried out from the ground.
Brian 16:19
That statement the blood crying out from the ground, what's that represent?
iON 16:24
RNA drops going back into the body.
Brian 16:27
Oh, okay, so that phrase, the blood crying out from the ground, is the RNA drops going back to the body. That's what you're saying?
iON 16:33
Yeah, it's reversed. The blood going into the ground, you're now putting the ground back into the blood.
Wendy 16:39
Because your body came from the ground?
iON 16:42
Abel's blood went to the ground, and the ground cried out. Now what you're doing is you're, with RNA drops, you're presently putting the ground back into your blood. It's reversed.
Brian 16:57
The RNA drops, is that the ground or the blood?
iON 17:00
It would be the representation of the ground.
Brian 17:04
So, the RNA drops are the representation of the ground that we're putting back in our blood.
iON 17:10
Some people say the RNA drops "call out" to them. It's like the ground calls.
Bob 17:17
The drops come from the dirt.
iON 17:19
We say earth, we don't say dirt.
Bob 17:22
Well, in one of the Genesis recordings, you talk about the role of dirt.
iON 17:25
Well,...
Bob 17:25
Oh, dust, not dirt, dust. The dust! The RNA drops are the dust.
iON 17:33
Yeah.
Bob 17:35
Remember that, Brian? The dust?
Brian 17:37
See, that makes sense what he's saying now because he made the statement that it was the dust. See, that's where the separation of power happened. When iON made the statement that it was the dust that separated us from our power, and it will be the dust that gets us back into our place of power. And then he says that's RNA drops, but well, I didn't get it out of Genesis. When we went through Genesis and we were talking about Cain and Abel and he talked about Abel's blood crying out, or you know, the blood and the dirt, that whole reference I had no idea that had to do with the RNA drops till now.
Bob 18:15
You wouldn't.
Wendy 18:17
And, iON, I think that you've said in the past that the people who are hybrids can also be corrected through the RNA drops. So that...
iON 18:30
Yes.
Kim 18:30
Is that what's getting rid of the Rh-negative factor is?
iON 18:34
Yes. Good.
Kim 18:36
So, remove the Rh-negative factor, that hybrid part of those people is no longer a problem.
iON 18:46
Right.
Bob 18:46
Oh, okay. Are you saying that, iON, that the Rh factor's due to the mixture of the angel and the human Lilith line?
iON 18:52
No, no. What it comes from is the Nephilim.
Bob 18:58
Rh factor does come from the Nephilim.
Kim 19:01
And, iON, and we were taught the only few times that word is actually used, we were taught the Nephilim are something to be feared and not of good character and it's what caused the flood. But where you're seeing also the third Jesus was half that component, is that the same thing?
iON 19:25
If you're talking about Genesis 6:1-5, the difference between sons of man and sons of God, yes.
Kim 19:33
Okay, because it says, "the sons of God saw the daughters of men," because they were beautiful and came down unto them, which was supposed to be forbidden. So, are the sons of God Ascended? Or are they a different part of the angelic kingdom or...
iON 19:51
There are different parts there. They would fall in almost the category of a Watcher. Bob's gonna perk up over that one, but they're not. But it would be that category.
Bob 20:00
They're not Sephilim or Nephilim?
iON 20:03
They are, but it's a separate category. Numbers 13:33, it's there.
Bob 20:08
How is the Rh factor from them, but not due to the mixture?
iON 20:13
It's not due to the mixture; it's a Little Man's estate, Rh positive and Rh negative. The Rh is a Little Man's statue.
Bob 20:23
Something to do with the Nephilim? And Seraphim?
iON 20:25
No,...
Bob 20:27
You seem to be saying that. I mean, Kim starts off saying the Rh factor is connected to the angelic mixture with humans.
iON 20:34
And it's not the angelic mixture. The angels, the Nephilim, and Seraphim have everything to do with it, but it's not causing it. So, it's not gonna undo it. You can't unfuck an angel and get rid of your Rh factor.
Wendy 20:46
I have Numbers 13:33.
iON 20:50
Okay, go ahead.
Wendy 20:52
"And there we saw the giants, the sons of Anak, which come of the giants: and we were in our own sight as grasshoppers, and so we were in their sight."
iON 21:07
Genesis 7:1.
Wendy 21:09
So, the giants, are they the sons and daughters of the product of the mating between the sons of God and the daughters of men?
iON 21:19
Yes, especially in New Jersey.
Bob 21:23
Yeah, around Ong's Hat.
iON 21:25
Yeah. Anaki, it's part of the Nephilim, -
Bob 21:27
Which is God.
iON 21:28
- in the land of Canaan. Just past the River Jordan. That's where David found the giants in the promised land in Canaan. That's where they came from.
Bob 21:41
What are the daughters of men? Those are daughters of men. The sons of God. You have to clean up the -
iON 21:45
I Chronicles 20:4-8.
Bob 21:46
- definition of sons of God in this context, daughters of men, is that the angels? Are they the sons of God?
iON 21:54
Yes.
Bob 21:55
In that famous thing that she read, the sons of God are not sons of me, or you, or God, they're the sons of Nephilim.
iON 22:04
We say yes, but then if you get down to 2 Peter and Jude, then you're questioning the sons of God in Genesis 6 aren't fallen angels. Who are Peter and Jude referring to?
Bob 22:16
Who are they referring to if they're not fallen angels?
iON 22:18
Well now, now you're gettin' somewhere. Lord suffering cats, y'all. Meow, meow, meow, meow. Oh, sorry. Bob was actually gettin' somewhere. Bob's actually gettin' somewhere. Now we were making reference to Peter and Jude remember? The Nephilim, they ruled the world. All of mankind, only Noah found favor in the eyes of the Lord, Genesis 6:8, we agree. Good, we're agreeing with ourselves now; that's all we're down to. But now what you're comin' back to is that this is a demonic activity that's recorded, then you gotta have evidence of that possession even today, if that's the case of where you slipped. This is post-blood. Okay? Then Peter and Jude could be said got a judgment of sin in the past days. Whether the sin be with angels, and they warn you that God will judge if sinned against. Okay. And then if you come back into that and swap up the Jesus's into that particular situation -- which apparently you should be able to do -- then as a sinner or less-than separating yourself coming into that step place, you would be a stepGod. If you're involved with the angelic being, you'd become a stepGod. John 20:12.
Bob 23:36
Yeah, stop quoting the Bible. Let's find out what you've said so far.
iON 23:39
We're not gonna -- well, you haven't in all these years what makes us think you're gonna start now?
Bob 23:44
Well, you do. I just have to go [say] "fine" and you stop. [iON laughs] Fine. Fine. That's the original [inaudible].
iON 23:50
That's old school. You said don't do old-school anymore, you said only new stuff. Only new and inviting, invigorating things. We can do this in the Wake if you prefer.
Bob 23:59
Yes! Do it in the Wake!
Brian 24:00
No! No, no, no! We do not prefer! We do not prefer the Wake! [Bob laughs]
iON 24:06
[laughs] That's the only thing that actually makes Brian [indistinct] and makes his -
Brian 24:11
Yeah. Yeah.
iON 24:09
- [indistinct] fall off his phone. Yes.
Bob 24:11
So, Brian just figure out what he just said.
Brian 24:17
What he just said was that was the sons of...
iON 24:21
"The Sons of Anarchy."
Brian 24:22
It was the stepsons of God, right? You finally got it down and…
iON 24:28
You'd be, you'd be -- that would be a representation of what you'd call a stepGod.
Bob 24:32
iON said we got to a new place here, Brian. What did we learn, Palmer?
iON 24:36
Peter and Jude, Palmer. Palmer, you found out what Peter in 2 Peter and Jude was referring to when they were talking about the manifested sons of God.
Bob 24:47
They talked about. Well, just tell us what they were talking about.
Wendy 24:49
They're talking about the Anaki?
iON 24:50
We're not. Yes, they were referring to the Anaki.
Wendy 24:53
The manifested sons of God were the Anaki?
iON 24:55
They are. They are also the giants, that's where whey came from. We said all that. That's old-school but go ahead.
Bob 25:00
So, you're saying, you're saying the angels, the Anaki angels, produced the stepGods?
iON 25:06
No, Bob. See? We work and we clean, we try to keep a clean house and what do we get? Cockroaches.
Brian 25:15
The only thing I got from it, Bob, was that it was, even though there's talking about the same thing, the sons of God, and Jude, and whatever the other reference was, it was very different from the reference in Genesis.
Bob 25:33
Right. There's a later phase. It's after the flood. The Evergreens said that about 6000 BC was the last time the UFOs interacted with man until our time, so it sounds like a parallel to that.
Wendy 25:45
It doesn't really mat -- iON, does any of that matter? Because while at least for those of us on the RNA drops because our blood's being cleaned up and...
iON 25:58
It's being gleaned.
Kim 26:01
The wheat and the chaff; is that referring to that verse? That this is what's happening is the...
iON 26:06
It is. You are. You are gleaned.
Kim 26:07
Are you serious?
iON 26:09
We are very serious. It's time to remove those [overtalk/inaudible]
Bob 26:12
Yeah, they're serious, Kim. Very serious.
iON 26:13
We're serious. We're serious. [lower voice] We're serious. Just kidding. [laughter] We're serious demons, we're a cloud. We're cirrus. Cirrus cloud.
Bob 26:21
Are you serious, Kim? You're gonna have to forget everything you ever learned from that fucking cult you were in.
Brian 26:26
So Kim, explain your revelation of what you just got from what iON was saying and you were, I think you, what'd you say, the...
Kim 26:34
In Revelation where the the angel of the Lord brings his sickle. And iON talked about JW pining, about he's been pining about saving people, but it's time for the wheat from the chaff to be separated. You know, it's time. We're now being separated.
Brian 26:57
Did you say weeds? What did you say?
Kim 27:00
Wheat. The wheat.
Brian 27:00
Is that the same as the -- what do they call it? the tares in the wheat? [an injurious weed resembling wheat when young]
Kim 27:01
[indistinct] the tares in the wheat. Yeah.
Brian 27:08
Okay.
Kim 27:09
iON, is that what RNA drops are doing?
Bob 27:12
Are we, are we separating chaff and wheat? Does that apply to today, iON?
iON 27:16
It does. Some call it redeemed; we call it reset. Deuteronomy 22:22-23 or 21-22,23 that'll work.
Kim 27:29
Yeah, it's in Matthew 13:24-30. It's the parable, the wheat and the tares. [relates to how servants eager to pull the tares were warned that in so doing they would root out the wheat as well and were told to let both grow together until the harvest.] And it's the one -- "24) The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a man which sowed good seed in his field: 25) But while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat, and went his way." So, he put weed seed upon the wheat.
iON 27:49
And you became a Little Man.
Kim 27:52
Okay, and so you're helping us because we have lost the ability to figure out how to do this, correct? So, you've actually come here to help us through this because we weren't able to do this...
iON 28:05
"10) For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them. 11) But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith. 12) And the law is not of faith: but, The man that doeth them shall live in them. 13) Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree: 14) That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith." [Galatians 3:10-14] Deuteronomy chapter 21:22-23.
Bob 28:26
And that comes to now, that's now that...
iON 29:00
Well now, you should say that but now what you're talking about is Galatians.
Bob 29:08
To take Kim's tact, you're lifting the curse that that quote refers to.
iON 29:14
That's right. Galatians 3, and start about 6, well, you can even go to 10, either way.
Bob 29:22
How many fundamentalist Christians are listening right now to our show and taping this and noting with that you're a demon and this, this is blasphemy? [iON laughs]
iON 29:29
Well, we hope all of them think that. That's good. We hope all because if they would find out what that really is, they could come back to God. See, everybody so running around, they're so heavenly minded that they're no earthly good. You came forth in the image of Christ. And if anything we can do, you can call us anything you want to, many have, call us anything you want to, but at the end of the day if it brings you back to God, we'll do that. We'll do that. Jesus hung on a cross and died, Ascended, and came back for you and you didn't bother to notice that either. So, eh.
Bob 30:07
But you're violated from their dogma, you're violating the one point, "we are not God". That's what they...
iON 30:13
Yes you are. Without Jesus and Jesus's need to Ascend, then there is no salvation, then there is no bridegroom, then there is no marriage supper of the lamb, then there is no angelic force that's gonna be sated to make whole, there is no Dark Soul then if that's the case. There is no place where it all gentrifies and comes together. Then you're screwed, and it'll be over for you soon, so do whatever you wanna do.
Brian 30:42
That's a good response. I've never heard that response like that. If those that push against this whole thing of them being God and you say, well, if you're not God, then that whole spiel you just went through was new material.
iON 30:55
Jesus said these things I've done on this earth you'll do and greater things! We are astounded. We have folks who have raised those from the dead. Documented. They're still here. We have that, it's called the Lazarus Project. We have that. No big whoop.
Brian 31:16
Seth's Ascension, was it similar to Jesus? Was it the same as Jesus?
iON 31:22
No, it was not.
Bob 31:24
There's not an archetypal Ascension that Sheila's painting shows, the archetypal process? Everybody goes through the same process? You're saying that's not fact?
iON 31:33
Genesis 15.
Brian 31:36
Is Genesis 15 gonna speak of this Ascension process?
iON 31:40
Yes.
Brian 31:41
So, which one, Seth or Jesus?
iON 31:44
Both.
Bob 31:46
Is it individual, the Ascension? or there is a collective archetypal, everybody goes through the...
iON 31:51
The covenant with Abram.
Wendy 31:52
Which verse iON? I have Genesis 15.
iON 31:57
Start with 1.
Wendy 31:58
"1) After these things the word of the LORD came unto Abram in a vision, saying, Fear not, Abram: I am thy shield, and thy exceeding great reward. 2) And Abram said, Lord GOD, what wilt thou give me, seeing I go childless, and the steward of my house is this Eliezer of Damascus? 3) And Abram said, Behold, to me thou hast given no seed: and, lo, one born in my house is mine heir. 4) And, behold, the word of the LORD came unto him, saying, This shall not be thine heir, but he that shall come forth out of thine own bowels shall be thine heir. 5) And he brought him forth abroad, and said, Look now toward heaven, and tell the stars, if thou be able to number them: and he said unto him, So shall thy seed be. 6) And he believed in the LORD; and he counted it to him for righteousness. 7) And he said unto him, I am the LORD that brought thee out of Ur of the Chaldees, to give thee this land to inherit it."
iON 33:26
So, they get a piece of the earth. So, they get a piece of the earth. "I am the LORD that brought thee out of Ur of the Chaldees." I am; this is Abram speaking. Do you see?
Bob 33:38
That doesn't answer the archetype questions.
iON 33:40
Then let's confirm his promises. Go to 8.
Bob 33:45
Oh shit. Hey, Wendy, don't do this. We used to do this in ReWrite. We ended up going for fuckin' hours going nowhere with Bible quotes. It's all a big distraction. Answer the question, iON. Is it archetypal, the same for everybody or is individual or is it a both or you can't say and you don't know?
Brian 34:01
Well, iON has always said it's been an individual process So, and if the Ascension process was different between Seth and Jesus, that tells me that it can be different for everybody. Or it can be the same. It doesn't matter as long as you get back.
Bob 34:19
Well, Brian, the Bible [other voices/inaudible]
iON 34:20
[quoting "Finnegans Wake"] "Who do you no tonigh, lazy and gentlemen? The echo is where in the back of the wodes; callhim forth!"
Bob 34:30
Thank you. A little "Finnegans Wake" clarifies everything, Brian.
iON 34:35
[indistinct]
Brian 34:37
iON, I have a question about in Genesis 17 when Abram goes to Abraham, they're changing his name, and the same with Sara. They add an "h" to each of their names. What's the shift that's going on?
iON 34:55
The next layer. It's so you can keep track of them.
Bob 34:59
Did you get anything out of what Wendy read, Brian?
Wendy 35:02
I got the confirming again about the earth that what we said earlier about the blood being in the earth; now the earth is coming back to us.
Bob 35:14
Well, it's about us again; it's always about us. It's about iONdom. Do you realize the Bible is about iONdom? Everything leads to now?
iON 35:24
The only reason you wrote the Bible is so you can find your way back like Hansel and Gretel leaving the breadcrumbs to get you back home. We're just trying to get you back to God; that's the only thing we're trying to do. You persecute, you run around here, you don't know where you are. You can't find anything, you don't know nothing, you can't get nowhere, and you spend your whole life, ever pile of money you can get yourself up with you burn it up in a furnace. And then you turn around and you wonder where you get a furnace. And then you turn around and you try to fight, fight, fight, push, push, push. This is mine, this is mine, this is mine. I want this, I want that, meow, meow, meow. Meow, meow, meow, meow. And on and on and on and on. And there you go. And you don't get anywhere. You spin and you twirl, and you spin, and you twirl. And how did I get myself in this mess? And you don't no more than get out of that one mess, you jump right into the next damn mess. You go make the next disaster that you walk into and just destroy everything, tear it all asunder. Then you start rebuilding it again. And then you come back and go, why am I here, what am I here for? Why did I do this? Who am I? Who am I that a king should die for me. Who am I? Who am I? And then you come back and then all of a sudden, when it's so simple, it's right there everything you bump into, every piece of media ecology, every meme that's has ever been made brings you back to your place as God. Or it doesn't go at all. Everyone does that.
Bob 36:52
Are you trying to tell me, iON, you trying to tell me that I wrote the Bible?
iON 36:56
Nike said, "Just do it." We do too.
Bob 37:01
Did I do that when I wrote the Bible?
iON 37:03
Of course, Bob. Bless your heart. You wrote it, but we're glad you didn't read it, but you wrote it. That's right.
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