The Tech Body & Media Ecology, 1 June 2019, Transcription

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Transcription by Roy.

Brent 0:02
So, does the - does the Tech Body fuck with our frequency when we're interacting?

iON 0:08
It does.

Brent 0:09
And, and it's almost, it's almost like an, like an opioid high. Right? Like it, it makes you, makes you numb. It -

iON 0:17
No. Stop.

Brent 0:18
- is that good words?

iON 0:19
It's more like - it's meth. It's not, it's not - it's meth. It's not opiates.

Brent 0:25
Heh heh heh. Right.

iON 0:27
Why you asking? I mean, that wasn't funny. That's meth. It's different. It's eugenic.

Brent 0:31
Well, same thing. Drugs.

iON 0:33
No, it's not.

Brent 0:34
Yeah.

iON 0:34
It's not. No, no, no. 750 of some phenobarbital and you'll go to sleep. You do, you do ten - you do ten Ativan and you ain't going to bed, you're up. You kick it, you see.

Brent 0:48
So, it's more like meth. It's a manic state. Like, like a bipolar disorder.

iON 0:54
It's a driver. It's a driver. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Brent 0:59
So, does that, does that state - could we call that Bob's discarnate state? Are those good words?

iON 1:07
Ahh, no. 'Cuz Bob's discarnate state, that has to do with separation of the body. Have you, have you been exposed to the four quadrants?

Brent 1:16
I have. I'm quite the pseudo McLuhan -

iON 1:18
Tell us.

Brent 1:19
- myself.

iON 1:19
Well good. Then tell us then. -

Brent 1:22
The four bodies, -

iON 1:21
- This is McLuhan week. This is the end of - hold on!

Brent 1:26
- the chemical body -

iON 1:26
- This is the end of McLuhan week. Hold on, this is the end of McLuhan week. So tell us about Marshall McLuhan and how it applies to the Chip Body within the Android meme. Okay? And the, and "The Mechanical Bride," and how it applies, looking at the black mirror. How it applies.

Brent 1:48
Well, I would say that the black mirror causes a discarnate state. So, there's a disconnection -

iON 1:55
What does that mean?

Brent 1:55
- from the physical body.

iON 1:56
Too many words. Too many words. Too many words. What do you mean, discarnate state? That's just a glib cliched archetype, where you just run around, saying things -

Brent 2:04
You're in more than one place.

iON 2:05
- and swallow it.

Brent 2:05
You're in more than one place at once. -

iON 2:08
But you're not.

Brent 2:09
You're a, you're, you're a super-angel.

iON 2:10
Exactly, and - no, you're not. You're focused exactly with your image caught into the black mirror, which is your iPhone. The black mirror, that is your phone. It's not everywhere. It's only there. Now, if the phone takes you someplace else, you get to have experiences, but they're all in this realm. See, it doesn't take you if it's - "beam me up, Scotty," that's what you're talking about. You're not everyplace. See, that's the reason we asked you, Mr. McLuhanite. Got any more?

Brent 2:43
So, it fucks with our sense ratios. Better words?

iON 2:49
Well, the perception. The perceptions are skewed. The stop sign said stop. The stop sign said stop. Stop sign - no, it didn't! The stop sign says you slow down. Just make sure nobody's coming and go on through the thing. Everybody knows that, you silly billy. Everybody does that. Nobody stops at the stop sign. What are you talking about? Media ecology says that you don't have to follow the rules, that there are no rules, and that the one that made the rules are inappropriate in every way, and it's not what you have to do. You have to pay your taxes. No, you don't. You just do this and do that. Half of America ain't paying no taxes, why should you have to pay any taxes? Just make sure they don't give you a dun or a bill or whatever, and you'll be just like half of everybody else that lives in California and New York. And then you can vote for the yellow-dog democrats 'cuz you can have Bernie Sanders as your fucking president because you don't pay no taxes and you want everything for free. But the problem is, the only issue that is is that you now have a body, a real body, that's making so much money that actually Bernie Sanders starts to look attractive because he has enough resources now to pay for the ridiculous stuff he's trying to give away for free! Okay, that's what you're talking about. That's what fucking. That's what's gettin' his dick wet right now. That's the conversation that's building this whole pseudo carpe diem, democrat socialists. What the fuck is that? What is a democrat socialist? It's another set of words. "Oh, the medium is the message. The medium is the message. Yes. Send me some more cooking sherry." Oh, wait, no, that's Mary. Sorry, sorry, it's within the family. It's all in the family like Archie Bunker. All right. So, now what happens is they have this media ecology that's making itself. The medium is making the message. The message is making the medium, or vice versa. But now what's happened is its gone off the chains at the very last. Marshall McLuhan, before they even had invented fucking remote control, says, "You don't know what you're talking about. It won't be long. You'll just say it and they'll deliver it to you. They'll just bring it to you. You'll just talk to your hand and they’ll - it'll be delivered to you. That's what's going - coming." That was before there were remote controls, see? They were just gettin' use to havin' colored TV. Oh wait, no, sorry, we can't say - sorry. Sorry. Sorry, they, they got us. They got - Bob, Bob, Bob. Sorry, sorry, sorry. We'll have to pay whatever the fine is. They say you can't say colored on the radio no more. You can say nigger, but you can't say colored. The NAACP. So, sorry about the colored racist remark about the TV. The colored TV. Sorry, sorry, sorry. Sorry about that. Now we've cleaned it up. Now, do you see how we have placed out our prescription of media ecology and how it applies to the Tech Body? See how we twisted that up and made it into a twirl? Was there anything else Marshall McLuhan thought about that kind of thing? We did some YouTubey things. What are those things on the YouTubey, the YouTube? YouTubes! We did some YouTube going all the way through and bringing you right up to Wyndham Lewis. Who, without Wyndham Lewis, you'd had no Marshall McLuhan. What about that? (short pause) The silence is deafening.

Brent 6:09
So, how, how are we going to fuck up the Tech Body, being the powerful individuals we are? How do we know the Tech Body works for us?

iON 6:19
Well, what would Marshall McLuhan - hold on. Hold on. What would Marshall McLuhan say, Mr. McLuhan? You can, you can be Marshall McLuhan. Tell us what Marshall would say. You have studied the work, haven't you?

Brent 6:34
Marshall would say, Marshall would say know, know your biases and navigate, navigate whatever environment you're in.

iON 6:41
We know. Marshall would ask what are your - Marshall would ask what are your biases based on? What are you biased? What are you - not what are you bias to. What are you biased? What is the bias? He'd say what's it parsed by. 'Cuz you don't even know that. You don't even have a landscape to, to divide. You see? You don't even have a visual point to come to or confirm. So, it's a false premise leading the conversation.

Brent 6:41
Wouldn't Marshall say - do you have to get out of the maelstrom? Is that the word he uses, the maelstrom?

iON 7:19
Yes.

Brent 7:19
And -

iON 7:20
Yes, yes.

Brent 7:22
And that's what -

iON 7:22
He didn't know what it meant. He didn't know what it meant.

Brent 7:24
And that's why I asked you -

iON 7:25
He said it, but -

Brent 7:26
Neither do I.

iON 7:26
- didn't know what it meant. Good. Okay. Bob, tell him what maelstrom is. You have a Googler? You have a Googler?

Bob 7:33
Heh heh heh. Well, you know it refers to a poem by Edgar Allan Poe, "A Descent into the Maelstrom," but it's a storm at sea, a whirlpool.

iON 7:45
It's a, it's a jetty.

Bob 7:46
And McLuhan punned on it. He said whirlpool.

iON 7:50
Jetty. A jetty.

Bob 7:52
Jetty?

iON 7:52
A jetty that spins. A jetty that spins. Yes.

Bob 7:56
Yeah, a jetty with fins. Anyways, it's a whirlpool. And then Marshall said w-o-r-l-d pool; the worldpool under global theater conditions. So, the worldpool was a whirl; w-h-i-r-l pool. Okay, so you got maelstrom? You got that?

Brent 8:19
Yes, Bob. Yes.

Bob 8:21
Yeah.

Brent 8:21
Thank you.

Bob 8:22
The storm, just a storm.

Brent 8:25
So, iON, you're gonna tell us that to get out of the maelstrom we need to ascend. But I'm looking for more detail on how we fuck the Tech Body - if the Tech Body is going to tell me I don't have any money, how do I -

iON 8:41
Get ahead of it. Get ahead of the fractal. Get ahead of the fractal. Get ahead of the fractal. Use the, use, use the algorithm in your presentation. Or, take a faraday cage to isolate it within the Chip Body itself. Make the Chip Body communicate into itself. For example, a long short would confuse the Tech Body.

Brent 9:03
A long short. Is that stock lingo?

iON 9:13
It is.

Bob 9:13
Yes.

Brent 9:14
I'm not interested in any of that.

iON 9:17
Oh, well, then let's see what you're interested in.

Brent 9:21
Heh heh. Like, so, say I wanted to take out a lot of money.

iON 9:26
Bob, that's kind of interesting right there. We just sit there and he asked the question of how we, you, us, get ahead or beat the Tech Body so you can make money. We give him the prescription and he's not interested enough.

Brent 9:39
I'm not interested in stocks. I'm not gonna get into it. That's just my honest take on it.

iON 9:48
Okay, well then, you understand, you could go to Vegas and bet on the stocks on the long shorts and it would be -

Brent 9:57
I would do that. I would do that. I would do that, for sure.

iON 9:57
That's the same differences, huh?

Brent 10:02
That'd be fine.

iON 10:03
Why don't you just let the Chip Body - why you got to do all that? Why don't you just let the Tech Body put the money in your account? Wouldn't that be easier, and then you wouldn't have all that money troubles, and

Brent 10:11
That's what I'm looking for.

iON 10:12
- common, and common people most certainly shouldn't be handing it. That's the presep - what happens when the Tech Body says, "Well, wait a minute. You're not qualified for this money. SARs says you don't even - you're not even gonna have the money, you dope dealer. You're a dope dealer. You're high right now. You don't need to be in no banking business. You're a dope man. You're a dope boy, you can't have this. No. Then they'll take the money that the Tech Body gives you and then they'll come take it away from you and say it's illegal, or out of bounds, or you're, you're a fraud, or a criminal, or a trickster, or conspiring to commit conspiracy for conspiratorial processes, and then take all your money away from you. See? That's the, that's the other rub of this power you've given to the Tech Body. But the first way that you can undo it is is with its own algorithm. And we won't add an example 'cuz it's fair. All anomalies suck sooner or later. And examples are right behind them in a metaphorical kind of reference pointy way. Okay, can do you the contact verb tenses? Okay, like the past pluperfect tense? The had had sometimes fucks up the Chip Body's representation of tech. Or, you want proof for that? Oh, yeah, we got you. When you're putting something on the goober snatcher. Have you ever been on the goober snatcher?

Brent 11:41
I have.

iON 11:43
Okay, sometimes if you hit the button twice, in the third time it makes - goes ahead and sends the text to the chat line board. Okay. Sometimes if you hit it two times, the third time you hit it, it automatically goes ahead and posts it. But then sometimes you hit it and it does it twice. It'll print it twice. But it can't do that. Right in the same button. But yet you do, and it does automatically respond double. Well, that's double that it doesn't recognize that it should have done. But it did. It didn't erase it, it just printed it twice and then erased it or dropped it off. See, that's an example of how individuals have overcome the Tech Body. We don't know how that makes you any money, but it's an example of what it is. That, and Bart will talk to you all day long about IP addresses changing. IPs all over the place. It's up, down, it's 15, 28, 219, 220. And the next time, every time you turn around it's different Yeah, that's an anomaly.

Brent 12:51
Yeah, I wouldn't say I'm interested in making money 'cuz that really hasn't been an issue as of late, but I'm more interested in if I borrow money from the Tech Body, money that's not mine, and I go and I use the money, then why can't the Tech Body just fuck up and say, "Oh, he never borrowed that money. He doesn't have to pay that money back." I mean, is that going to be a reality?

iON 13:19
Well, that's sort of what's happening now. It's happening now. So sure, it could happen again.

Brent 13:26
I mean, I, I go to get loans for school. And I'm like, nowhere to be found in the system as if I don't exist. And then once I take out the loans, who's to say I don't exist yet again, in this system? It's just is that what's going to happen to everybody in the Tech Body? They're going to become a nothing? Or people - will people be accountable?

iON 13:52
Well, they're not now. They're gettin' shot in the face all day long, and they're not accountable now. They only know who's dead lately.

Brent 14:06
So, does commanding the angels have anything to do with the Chip Body? Can, can the angel -

iON 14:10
It does.

Brent 14:10
- the Tech Body can the, can the angels clean up the Tech Body for you?

iON 14:15
Sure. Their job. They sure can. But do you - have you - do you have the words, the Keys and the Aethyrs? And have you been practicing? Do you know the language to be able to pull that off? (overtalk)

Brent 14:28
I do not. I just, -

iON 14:29
(overtalk) we'd wait till you -

Brent 14:30
- just have the OA movements.

iON 14:32
- we'd wait. Well, that's a good place. That's a good place. And practice, practice those. That's good.

Brent 14:39
Okay.

iON 14:39
And get the Keys and the Aethyrs from Bob and practice those. And did you enjoy McLuhan week this week?

Brent 14:50
I did enjoy McLuhan week. It was a nice throwback to those two years of the New Coach House with Bob.

iON 14:59
Nice, Coachella. Mm hmm.

Brent 15:02
Bob did really well without you, I must say. I think he -

iON 15:06
He always does.

Brent 15:07
- performed up to an iON standard.

iON 15:10
That's - well, he's had enough hours to. He certainly has.

Brent 15:15
Yeah, yeah. Okay, well, so. So just like how the angels will fuck with you if you are not in your place of power, the Tech Body does the same thing. Are they one and the same thing?

iON 15:33
Worse than, worse, worse than Andrew Crystall.

Brent 15:35
Andrew Crystall's a McLuhanite?

Bob 15:40
Yes, he did the McLuhan On Maui with me in 2011.

iON 15:42
You're very, you're very, you're very, very genteel to make such statements. He barely knew who he was.

Brent 15:51
Yeah, I'm not, I'm not Clinton, so I don't know Andrew Crystall. Not in my world. So, in Bob's "Phatic Communion" book, he claims that Dobbs is the holeopathic nonbias. How does Bob not have a bias?

iON 16:10
He doesn't know -

Brent 16:11
How can that even be answered?

iON 16:12
- he doesn't even know anything. He doesn't even know enough to know that he had a bias to be biased about. He's bias about not having a bias. He didn't have a clue. He didn't know, he didn't care. He's good. Carolyn, we do that? Yes, Bob. Okay. Good. Well, I don't know. Carolyn, can we do that? No, Bob. Oh, I've done it once. Well, no, I don't know. Maybe, I don't know. I'll checked my emails, an if it's in my emails - there's several in his email box. He has to make new email boxes to hold all the emails of the emails. He has bibliographies listing off the table of contents of the different computers with the different emails telling what's in those emails and how to find it 'cuz there's so many emails. 'Cuz he doesn't - and when he throws it in the trash, that's a whole filing system in and of itself!

Brent 17:04
Yeah, and that's kind of naturally what happens when you're, when you're interacting with all these extensions of technology that it just gets lost. There's a million different documents, a million different passwords. So, the way Bob acts is a, is a default for a lot of people nowadays. It's pretty tough not to act more and more like Bob. Is that correct?

iON 17:31
We could go with it. Yeah, we could go with it.

Brent 17:37
But is Bob not having a bias and living so haphazardly, is that something that would benefit most people or benefit me?

iON 17:46
Bob's not living, Bob's not living, Bob's not living haphazardly. He has a Purpose Driven Life. He does more before - well, he only sleeps two hours, three hours, and does more with his morning than most people do with their whole lives, every day. Somebody listens to all this crap. He makes it, creates it, banks it, watches it, edits it, shares it, talks about it, prints about it, saves it, resaves it, listens to it again, read it, decides what's good, crops it, edits it, and then puts it on blogspot dot information fuck me hard farms, some’um, blogspot iON Bob Dobbs, some’um Neveritt, never it, leverit. And then goes and goads Reverend Stang in the butt with a big old stick. And then he goes to the beach, and go surfing, and goes crazy, and then comes back and starts with us again and does another, another, another, another, another, another seven seconds. He says I'll have another Nutter Butter, say peanut butter sandwich cookie. And then he takes the next time and has to go listen to it. "Nah, I'm not going too long. It's too many words. We've got to go through this. There's just too much." And he goes three hours!