Transcribed by Nan
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iON 0:00
Something now.
Bob 0:01
Yeah.
Carolyn 0:02
Oh yeah, that's my Bob. Okay, "I am the Benu bird, the Heart-soul of Ra, the guide of the gods to the Tuat. Their Heart-souls come forth upon earth to do what their KAU (Carolyn: KAU?)
iON 0:20
KAU. Just KAU.
Carolyn 0:23
Ha ha ha. Bob's leaving the room. He can't face me any more! Ha ha ha.
iON 0:33
At least he's not standing on your cord. At least he's not standing on your cord. That's what he normally does. Ha ha.
Carolyn 0:39
He's so embarrassed by having been with me for having been with me for 52 years! Ha ha ha.
iON 0:43
Carolyn, oh, Carolyn. Go get him! He's goin', he's goin' to get the pistol out of the drawer.
Carolyn 0:49
Uh oh.
iON 0:49
Don't let him get the 45, Carolyn. He's gonna - don't let him do it, don't let him do it.
Carolyn 0:55
No, but then he'd have to ask me how to use it. So, I think I'm okay.
iON 0:58
That's true, that's true. Tell him what the bullets are and where they go, and how to pronounce the bullets correctly. Yeah, how to back the hammer.
Carolyn 1:07
Ha ha. Okay, back to: "Their Heart-souls come forth upon earth to do what their KAU wish to do, and the Heart-soul of the Oasis Ani shall come forth to do what his Ka wisheth to do." Now what did I miss here by all that distraction?
iON 1:27
Nothing. Nothing.
Carolyn 1:28
We got a Benu bird. Nothing.
iON 1:32
It's the connection of the inside outside part. You can make a body perfect, but if your soul is rotten, it's not, it's just gonna make you live long and rottenly. You have to clean it up on every side. You have to be able, to be able to place, adjudicate the condition which allows you to live a god-like life. Okay. But that's not perfect, but it's god. See, the reason it's god is because god don't take no shit. If that's what god said, then that's what god said; don't go against god. So even if it's wrong, it's still what god said. No problem.
Carolyn 2:11
But it's still not exactly god 'cuz it's god-like.
iON 2:15
Well, 'cuz that's what, that's what we're trying to be - this is trying to get em from the dead back to the life, then to god.
Carolyn 2:24
Ah, yeah, yeah, into god, of course. Awesome. Continuing, and it's a new chapter: "THE CHAPTER OF THE HEAD-REST, which is to be placed under the head of the Osiris Ani, whose word is truth. Awake out of thy sufferings, O thou who liest prostrate! Awake, thou! Thy head is in the horizon. I lift thee up, O thou whose word is truth. Ptah hath overthrown thine enemies for thee. Thine enemies have fallen, and they shall never more exist, O Osiris." So,
iON 3:09
What key is that? What Key is that? What Key is that? What Key is that?
Carolyn 3:14
Well, the enemy's falling. Key 10 is the battle.
iON 3:18
Good.
Carolyn 3:18
Loose the battle.
iON 3:19
That's right. Now that's how this applies from that rest condition that puts you in a place where you can basically put a checkmark, good. Checkmark, bad. Checkmark, good. Checkmark, bad. We don't have to kill ourselves, we just want to make that notation.
Carolyn 3:38
Got it. And Ptah, P-t-a-h. We've heard that name before but never in the position of overthrowing or is that Key 11, the backup?
iON 3:52
The backup.
Carolyn 3:53
Okay. Yeah. Got it. And continuing on to an "APPENDIX (From the Papyrus of Nebseni, Sheet 21)" Ah, another "THE CHAPTER OF THE HEAD-REST [OR PILLOW]" they call it now. "Awake out of thy sufferings, O thou who liest prostrate. They (the gods) keep watch over thy head in the horizon. Thou art lifted up, thy word is truth in respect of the things which have been done by thee. Ptah hath cast down headlong thine enemies. This work was ordered to be done for thee. Thou art Horus, the son of Hathor, Nesert, Nesertet, who giveth back the head after it hath been cut off. Thy head shall not be carried away from thee, after [it hath been cut off]; thy head shall be carried away from thee, never, never!" Okay, so, this is weird.
iON 5:07
Okay, so. No, no, it's fine. Here's what's happening. God is saying, "Okay, we're here to support little men, to keep this together, keep it worked out, to get it worked out. But, if you happen to get fucked off and dead, then we got to get you from dead back to alive. So, they don't - you don't have any support, so here's a pillow." Here's a Mike Lindell, My Pillow, that will allow you to have support until you get yourself back together, but we're not gonna let em drag your head off. And that's how we for years have said, "Bring us the head of Mavis Davis," remember?
Carolyn 5:47
Okay, so he's offering your head support and to protect your head from being cut off.
iON 5:57
Mm hmm. And that's a good place, and that's a perfectly good place to cut it off. You've been an hour, and you're to "THE TEXTS IN THE FUNERAL CHAMBER" now, which is 60. Nine pages is all you got left, Carolyn.
Carolyn 6:15
Oh my god.
iON 6:16
Do we do it again and see what we learned?
Carolyn 6:18
Heh heh heh. We'll let Bob do it.
iON 6:21
Let's do a 16, let's do a 16-week recap and let Bob say all the words right. Ha ha ha.
Carolyn 6:27
Yeah, I think that would work.
iON 6:29
Make him, make do 16 weeks. He wouldn't, he'd figured out how to use the gun if he had to do that. But y'all see what's happening. Things are starting to build. They're starting to build, meaning that it means something. Meaning that it's something that applies. Meaning that it comes to some position or place. Good. Good to notice that. And you can have questions, it's all good. They might have questions, we don't know. Maybe, maybe they don't care. We don't care. We don't care, do you?
Carolyn 7:01
No, I'm afraid not. I just have fun talking to you.
iON 7:07
Yay, that's good too.
Carolyn 7:06
Continuing: "THE TEXTS IN - Bob, what? Are we ending it here? Ahh, ha ha.
iON 7:18
Yeah, that's a good place to stop.
Bob 7:20
See, she doesn't even know what she said. (all three laugh)
Carolyn 7:28
Continuing abuse.
iON 7:29
You leave her alone. And she, and she misspeaks, so let her not misspeak. If she's not gonna misspeak, she might as well speak all that she wants to. Right? Tell him, Carolyn.
Bob 7:40
Heh heh. Where did you end, Carolyn? The Chapter of the Head-Rest?
Carolyn 7:42
Never mind.
iON 7:45
The Texts in the Funeral Chamber. Sixty.
Bob 7:48
Yeah, I see that, that's the title. We got to there.
Carolyn 7:51
I did two whole pages, Bob.
Bob 7:53
Well, you know, with this talk of the Bread of Life and all that, I was just thinking, you know, ten minutes ago, how great this is. And then iON said it. It's startin' to build. I was picking up on it. Even though I wasn't listening to the words I knew we were picking up to a significant meaning.
Carolyn 8:08
Oh, Bob.
Bob 8:09
I mean, this is fantastic stuff!
Carolyn 8:12
Oh, brother.
iON 8:13
Ha ha. Carolyn,
Bob 8:13
Bring in a couple of fucking Praise Bobs. Give me a couple of Praise Bob.
iON 8:18
He couldn't depend on your literal bias, he couldn't depend on your literal bias, Carolyn. He had to create his own.
Carolyn 8:25
Where they say wheat and barley? I don't see any wheat and barley. Where do they say that?
iON 8:29
Wheat and barley! What's wheat and barley, Carolyn? What do we use that for? Do we use wheat and barley, Carolyn? Do we eat that? Yes, Bob, we eat that.
Bob 8:37
What do you think? Is that Michael? Isn't it incredible, Michael, what we're experiencing here with this ridiculous Book of the Dead that The Fugs sang about that in the 60's? That's F-u-g-s. That's Sanders and Tuli Kupferberg in New York City. The East Coast version of the early Mother's of Invention. They sang all kinds of stuff about Ramses II and Book of the Dead. Look what we're doing.
iON 8:59
West town girls. Don't forget West town girls.
Michael 9:01
That's amazing, Bob.
Bob 9:03
It is amazing, Michael.
iON 9:04
West town girl. Don't forget that one, too, Bob.
Michael 9:06
Yeah, I wouldn't have put all that in it, but thanks for adding all that, Bob.
Bob 9:10
You know who I mean. The Fugs and all that, right?
Michael 9:12
Yes, yes.
Bob 9:14
Yeah, no, Ed Sanders and they - they did a lot of this stuff on their album covers; Egyptian mythology in the late 60's.
Michael 9:21
Yes.
Bob 9:22
And to think that we are - that it's about us for fuck sake. You remember Carolyn, when we were with Steve in New York and we were talking about The Fugs and the Egyptian Book of the Dead. We never would have fuckin' imagined it was about our D-cell for fuck sake. Ha ha ha. You have to realize how incredible this is, Michael.
iON 9:43
D-cell?
Bob 9:47
Ha ha ha. That was thrown for aloof, just to fuck up iON, Michael. But stick with, stick with me, Michael.
iON 9:47
D-cell?
Bob 9:51
Don't go with iON's interruption.
iON 9:53
D-cell? Okay. D-cell?
Bob 9:56
I mean, I knew I had - I bumped into the Egyptian Book of the Dead a lot, a lot back then. I mean with Dave Worcester out there in Seattle, Carolyn, '69, we did a bit of the Egyptian Book of the Dead and the Servants of Awareness courses. It didn't mean anything, but it was sort of interesting about it whatever we thought. But now we actually - it's too bad all these guys are dead. Every - I think they would appreciate this stuff. Tuli is dead.
Michael 10:26
Would, indeed, Bob.
Bob 10:27
Yeah, they would, all of them, the whole gang of them. Wavy Gravy. He's still alive but
Michael 10:32
They'd probably appreciate themselves more if they knew it.
iON 10:32
What about Beefheart? Beefheart would. Captain Beefheart would.
Bob 10:37
Yeah. Oh, Beefheart. And Sun Ra. But what would you say Michael? We tried it we do what?
Michael 10:43
They would also probably appreciate themselves more if they knew what you knew, Bob.
Bob 10:46
Yeah. Yeah, like Wavy Gravy came here a couple of years ago. And, and after - that was the night Joan Baez came, right, Carolyn? I think it was Joan Baez and that guy who sings -Jackson Browne. Anyways, the old guard of the 60's that the Maui residents all lived and grew up with. Very strong hippie thing here.
iON 11:12
Oh, yeah, Emmett Kelly. It was Emmett Kelly.
Bob 11:16
Was he the guy with The Diggers? No, but I know that name in some context back then. Anyways, so Michael, I got talking to Wavy Gravy after and I was waiting for Joan Baez to come out. I was gonna confront her about her relationship with Bob Dylan, but she wouldn't come out. She knew. People paid to talk to Joe Baez, and she wouldn't come out. The Dark Soul, she knew. So,
Michael 11:40
She knew there was another Bob there.
Bob 11:42
Yeah, she knew the real Bob Dylan was there. Ha ha. Dylan would be interested in this stuff. He's probably actually hearing it. He's pretty observant - he sneaks around and observes things.
iON 11:54
He wrote a song about it: "Go read the Book of the Dead and don't say the words. (indistinct) And we can do, what we want to do 'cuz the dead don't stay dead." Wait a minute. Do we have to, do we have to, do we have to take off original music, Bob?
Bob 12:16
Yeah, yeah.
iON 11:41
That was original. We don't have to pay for that. They gotta to pay us for that. There you go. Archive it, archive it. Get a license for it.
Bob 12:24
Ha ha ha. But the - so, talking to Wavy Gravy, it was hard to get him to focus. I mean, these are all - they're all spaced out. You know, like, they live in the image they think the other hippies have of themselves. So they can't see Bob. So, try to -
Carolyn 12:47
No Bob, they live in flashback.
Bob 12:49
Yeah, they live in flashback. So I was going, "Kill ugly radio." Didn't do nothin'. I said "The medium is the massage." Didn't do nothin'. I was trying to MKUltraed deprogram, defrag em" and he couldn't respond. He just kept smiling and saying what a great show was it, and it wasn't a good show. So horrible. Anyways, we'd bump into him. Ha ha.
iON 13:15
Ha ha ha. There's Bob, arguing for his limitations. There's Bob, arguing for his limitations.
Bob 13:22
Basically Michael, my encounter of all these people 50 years later, I see I was the hidden ground. I'm the only one fucking awake or conscious! They are not there anymore! I am here ready to continue that mythology or enhance what they thought they were doing. But they can't register me.
Michael 13:44
Did you ever encounter the Grateful Dead people Bob, in any way?
Bob 13:48
I don't think so.
iON 13:50
Oh, yes you did. The Deadheads. -
Bob 13:53
I didn't like them.
iON 13:53
- You most certainly have (indistinct).
Bob 13:54
I didn't like the San Francisco scene, Michael. I liked the LA scene, Zappa. And that was a better place to be. The Greatful Dead, they all, they all got lazy and just did their stupid endless tour.
Michael 14:07
Wishwashy music.
Bob 14:09
Yeah, like, like when you - I went to a Dylan concert -
iON 14:12
With a Deadhead, with a Deadhead sticker on a Cadillac.
Bob 14:15
Yeah. And when I went to the Dylan concert in Ottawa on July, 2017, holy shit was it bad. It was so bad, I don't even know what it was. It was ridiculous. But when I think - when you go see a Zappa thing, holy fuck. That's fucking real. You know, there's ongoing creativity which he did. (iON laughs) Of course, I hadn't met Ellie face. What's her name? Vicki Russo, Vestal, Vestal, l hadn't met her. Vee Vest. I hadn't done that yet. So, so, you know, maybe if I'd met Vestal Goodman back then, I'd be Mayor of Georgia now; mayor of Atlanta. But anyways, I got Zappa.
iON 14:58
Or had another sexual affair with Dottie Rambo. You broke up Buck, you broke up Buck and Dottie.
Bob 15:05
Ha ha ha. Yeah, see, I'm the reason she got fucking crippled. I'm the reason she got crippled.
Michael 15:08
She was too fragile for that, iON.
Bob 15:11
Yes, but the - as we talk, (recording corrupted) play music, but we can't till they fucking respond to our letter. (iON laughs) Heh heh. But the -
iON 15:28
We can read some poetry. We can read some poetry. We can have Carolyn read some poetry, Bob.
Bob 15:32
I'd like to think - hey, hey, Michael, I like to think of iON an incredible human con man. And this is the most inventive thing. He could take the damn Egyptian Book of the Dead and fit it into Bob's life, no matter what it fucking says. That's pretty incredible, imaginative interpretation, you know. And I like to think of it that way, but it's duller than that, Michael. Fuckin' iON wrote this fuckin' thing. It's just straight forward.
iON 15:57
It's really it's really a tribute to Jackie Robinson, not Bob, it's Jackie Robinson. We're just gonna morph it. Jackie Robinson into Bob for the gay side. It'll be good.
Bob 16:09
1948. Jackie Robinson. But that's about his big year, when he broke through into the, into the white league. Yes. So, but, oh, yeah. What were you saying Michael?
Michael 16:23
I was gonna say that if iON can get us talking and thinking about a dot for hours, then, you know, we can get into anything, Bob.
Bob 16:32
Yes. Wait till you hear about the dot on my private session. I don't think it was in the first hour. Was it?
Carolyn 16:37
(In background) There was some, yeah.
Bob 16:40
Oh, maybe it was in there. Did you catch what it said?
Michael 16:44
No, I think we have to wait for your second session for the dot, Bob.
Bob 16:48
Okay. You'll be surprised at what it is. Anyways, I'm, I'm enjoying the sweep of the Book of the Dead. You know, it sweeps right into my backyard, so, I like that.
Michael 17:04
Yeah, I'm wondering if events to come will cause us to look back at it to go back and, and, and reconsider it, Bob.
iON 17:15
Well, we've addressed the rearview, we've addressed the rearview mirror syndrome, have we not?
Michael 17:22
Yeah.
Bob 17:23
Yes. But what do you mean to reconsider it? We're considering it now as iON does it. Well, we can go back and hear a lot.
Michael 17:32
Yes, but for many the dead haven't maybe have not set up yet, and so we don't have to deal with it quite yet. But there might come a time when we will have to go review everything Carolyn said to figure out how to deal with all these dead people sitting up around us.
Bob 17:50
Yes. Yes. Might have to - I might even have to learn the Keys and Aethyrs.
Michael 17:55
Yeah, you might, Bob. Ha ha ha.
iON 17:57
Ha ha ha. While he's paying somebody, while he's paying somebody to do the OA movements for him.
Michael 18:06
Yes.
Bob 18:08
Ha ha ha. That's right. I'll get a robot for that. That's right. Oh, I don't have to learn them then. The robots will do it. Right? Okay, so, shall we open the - we're finished, right? Let's see if anybody else wants to say something. Thank you, Michael, for your contributions.
Announcer 18:29
All participants are now unmuted.
Bob 18:31
Anybody else wanna say something? (background noise on line) See, that's Scott's noise, but anybody else want to talk? Troatman?
iON 18:46
Who is that screaming? Is he murdering something, Bob? Is he killing something?
Bob 18:49
Yeah, yeah.
iON 18:51
He's gotta shut the door. He's got somebody trapped in the basement and he's gotta shut the door to muffle it 'cuz it sounds so (indistinct). But he's left it cracked. That's what the fan's for, is to muffle it so you don't hear their blood curdling scream from the thing that he's got trapped down in the basement. Oooh, this is gettin' good. That's why we, that's why we fuck with him. He's not, he's not mild, he's wild Bob. He's wild. Scott's wild.
Bob 19:16
Heh heh. Okay, so we got Jean, Linda -
iON 19:20
Did you hear that blood curdling scream?
Bob 19:21
Yeah, I did. Brent and Beverly, and Greg, and Ginney and Scott. And then Michael and then Dennis. So, does anybody want to say anything?
Denny 19:38
Well, this is Denny.
Bob 19:40
Okay, Denny. We're talking about the Book of the Dead.
Denny 19:43
Yes. I was, I was happy to see that the, the Tet of gold was the drops.
Bob 19:50
Yes.
Denny 19:50
And the Tet of the, the other one was ReMag. So that, that brought us up to a little more interesting point.
Bob 20:01
Yes.
Denny 20:01
The dead, I'd - the dead right now, I'd probably want to shoot em.
Bob 20:06
Okay, here's a question, iON, do the famous overseers of the Giza Museum, the Giza pyramids, they have the Ministry of Egyptian Antiquities and that, are they aware of what we're saying? Are they listening to this Book of the Dead, those -
iON 20:24
The sinister ministers. That's why they had to fall. You lost all of Egypt because of this. Before this could be done, they were in charge and in power. Well, pharaoh had to fall before this could come out -
Bob 20:26
Ah ha!
iON 20:28
- This will unearth it. You'll never put the capstones back on the pyramids as long as Egypt was in charge. And so now, all of Egypt has but fallen.
Bob 20:48
Wow.
iON 20:49
It's worse. It's worse than the library at Alexandria.
Bob 20:56
Right. Now, they just heard that. What do they think about that, or it doesn't matter, they're all starving anyways.
iON 21:03
They're done. They're starving. They've lost their foolishness. Yeah. They're starved to death. They don't care. They don't care about the religion, Bob, their guts tell them that they're starving to death.
Bob 21:14
Yeah, Michael, when I was - or anybody else listening, when I spoke at the Mesquite, Nevada, UFO convention in August '99, there was a guy there who was well-known for sneaking into the pyramids for years. And the bureaucrats knew about him, and they would chase him, and he did all this stuff. And he would occasionally come and speak at their conferences. So I heard all about the main Egyptian bureaucrats there from from Larry, and all the details. So now I know why I heard it. Because I was going to topple it. So, I got the briefing from the main enemy, the main nuisance of Larry running around and sneaking into the pyramids and getting banned all the time.
Michael 21:58
Yeah, that's probably the last thing Egypt had going for it, Bob, was tourism. And once COVID took that away, there's just nothing there for them.
iON 22:07
What the fuck are you talking about? Egypt fell when Mubarak was killed. That - you couldn't go there 'cuz they would shoot you in the face. It wasn't about no virus. Egypt's done. Long ago.
Bob 22:11
Yeah, that was 20 - that was - no, Mubarak, he just escaped, he's not dead.
iON 22:27
Oh, no. He's dead.
Bob 22:29
There's the old oh. See, Michael. All I have to go is, "Oh?" Heh heh heh.
Michael 22:31
Oh? Oh?
Bob 22:34
Oh? Oh?
iON 22:36
No, they killed him dead as a sack of hammers.
Bob 22:39
I have to look it up and see if they say that in our trusty - the real archives, wiki. They know what they're talking about. They're not bullshitting like us.
iON 22:50
Well, just wait a minute, we can put that in there in just a second. Give us a minute. No problem. Ha ha ha.
Bob 22:55
It's a race. I was trying to get there. Oh, a fucking race. He just put it - I saw it go in! Look it, he put February 25, 2020. It just happened a couple of weeks ago. Wow, that was fast, iON. I saw it pop in, Carolyn.
iON 23:11
Well, we're not as good, we're not as good once as we once was, but we're good once as we ever was, Bob. So, just so you know.
Bob 23:19
Yes. So did they - let's see. When did - let's see if they explain how he died. They don't seem to go into much detail about it.
Carolyn 23:31
(in background) Lead poisoning?
Bob 23:33
Yeah, lead poisoning, iON?
iON 23:35
The cancer. The cancer got him.
Bob 23:39
Right, but you use the metaphor, "They blew his head off" or something, you know, a few minutes ago. That was just a metaphor?
iON 23:46
Yeah. Mm hmm.
Bob 23:49
Okay. Anybody - so Denny, you wanted to say something more?
Denny 23:55
No, I'll wait for another time. That's all I wanted to say about the Egyptian Book of the Dead. I'll just, you know, once we get near the end, that picks out some things that are quite interesting.
Bob 24:08
You're saying that you'll, you know you'll have more to say later.
Denny 24:13
But, but not about the Book of the Dead.
iON 24:14
And if - not about the Book of the Dead. Yeah, he wants a turn, he wants a turn later. He's gonna get one 'cuz we got someum to tell him.
Bob 24:22
Oh, okay.
Denny 24:22
Okay, that'd be, that'd be great.
iON 24:24
So you're gonna be -
Bob 24:25
You mean later tonight.
iON 24:26
- you are going, you are going to get a slot -
Bob 24:31
What, a?
iON 24:31
- if, if the turboridge holds.
Denny 24:37
Okay. Thank you guys.
Bob 24:38
Did you say slice? Gonna get a slice? What was the word?
Jean 24:42
A slot. A slot tonight.
iON 24:44
A slot.
Bob 24:44
A slot. Yeah, yeah.
Jean 24:47
If turbobridge holds.
Bob 24:50
Okay, who's saying that?
Jean 24:53
Jean.
Bob 24:52
Yeah, I thought it was a different voice.
Jean 24:56
iON?
Bob 24:56
Anybody - yeah, go ahead.
Jean 24:59
I have some questions.
iON 24:59
How much are your shingles? How much are your shingles? Oh, can't do shingles, you got to do Book of the Dead right now.
Bob 25:05
Yeah.
Jean 25:05
Right, right. But I can't answer that, but that, that is not related to the Book of the Dead. iON, remind me what a Tet is. T-e-t.
iON 25:17
Oh, it's like a, it's like a, it's like a group word that describes a vessel, an amount, a condition, an amount of wind. It's like a pinch of salt, a Tet of salt, or a Tet of a, I'm gonna, I'm going to take a copper bathtub and have a Tet of hot water in it.
Jean 25:45
Got it. Okay.
iON 25:47
So that's how they use it. Now, it's slang, but they've got - see, the Greek got involved in this transcription and that's when everything gets lost. That's why things are spelled crazy and funny. 'Cuz it's all Greek to Bob.
Jean 26:03
Okay. All right. Um, okay, a Tet of gold and a Tet of carnelian. You said that - is, is the ankhamu, ankh-amu flower a rose?
iON 26:18
No, it's not a rose. There are three amino acids, though.
Jean 26:24
I know, but it sounded like maybe something was gonna be made on, or there was going to be further discussion in the Thursday sessions. You said it sounded like a formula. So I thought I'd just pick at that a little bit and see if -
iON 26:40
Well, what what did we say?
Jean 26:41
- there was something more to say.
iON 26:43
What did, what did we say that we just said?
Jean 26:49
That there's three amino acids, which is -
iON 26:53
Right. Good. Okay, good.
Jean 26:56
Okay. All right. We'll leave it there.
iON 26:59
And you know one of them is lysine-based; and you know one of them is rose-based. And so that's two, so, looking for a third are you?
Jean 27:10
Looking for a third. Is the third developed from the ankhamu flower?
iON 27:16
Oh, well, we can't talk about that. We'll see that, we'll see about that on Thursday.
Jean 27:21
Okay. All right. Okay, you and Carolyn and Bob and JW will see about that on Thursday.
iON 27:27
But thanks for, thanks for asking, though. You're so perceptive how you picked right up on that, though, Jean. That's amazing.
Jean 27:27
Well, thanks for, for answering. Now, did you also say -
iON 27:40
See, Bob said, Bob said we're good for nothin'. That's what Bob said.
Jean 27:46
Oh, he's just making fun. Just makin' fun.
iON 27:50
He's not making fun. He's having fun. He doesn't make fun. He has fun at everyone else's expense.
Jean 27:56
Yes, yes. And those of us that are the expense have a fun time, too. We have a pretty good time, Bob.
That's true.
Bob 28:21
Yes.
iON 28:06
It is funny. It's funny, and sometimes it's punny. Sometimes that the pun extrudes the fun sometimes, and then sometimes not so much. But it's the way you have to wick the attention to the detail. It's important. Otherwise, you're gonna miss the obvious.
Jean 28:33
I know.
iON 28:34
But you got to be able to pull these together. These are different scenarios telling you what's up, and then telling you what, what to do with what's up. How to deal with it.
Jean 28:45
Okay. All right. So, the soul, the meaning of the soul in the Book of the Dead. Is that the same as what you've said before, that it's the recorder?
iON 28:54
Ah huh.
Jean 28:56
Yes.
iON 28:57
It is.
Jean 28:57
All right.
iON 28:58
Yes.
Jean 28:59
Now, and if your soul is rotten, you said. You said it's the connection of the inside outside part. If your soul is rotten, blah, blah, blah. I didn't get the rest of that. You had to be able to adjudicate the position to be able to live a god-like life.
iON 29:18
Right.
Jean 29:19
So does that mean that the -
iON 29:21
Soul, like the rotten soul, the rotten soul is all those things that you wanted to do that you didn't do that you didn't get done. Too many of those will rot you 'cuz there's too much again(st) ya. Too much again(st) ya. You should have more done than undone.
Jean 29:36
Well, isn't, isn't there a purification process? Can you unrotten your soul?
iON 29:42
What the hell does that mean? Those are pretty words. What are you talking about?
Jean 29:46
A recorder. You can erase things in a recording, iON.
iON 29:51
Oh? Oh, really? Na hah. Not in the soul you can't. That's why the, that's why the scriptures talkin' about the judgment. The judgment seat.
Jean 30:03
Right.
iON 30:04
Yeah, you get that, you get that, boy, you know - you're saying right, but you said you can change it! So, it ain't -
Jean 30:09
So, that's -
iON 30:10
- right that it's, that it's marked in stone as it were and that you can change it; both aren't right. The soul marks it done or not done, done or not done. Not good or bad. There's no good or bad. That's relative. Done or undone.
Jean 30:28
And isn't that an ongoing process? To do and undo?
iON 30:33
Until the soul - unless, unless the soul gets rotten. Unless you get caught in the, in the rectum of Khert-Neter and got more undone than you got done.
Jean 30:49
Well, that in itself is a judgment; to declare that I'm, I've got more undone than done and therefore my soul is rotten.
iON 30:58
But that's what the soul does. That is the judgment. Do you remember in - there was a litttle thing we did some time ago called Revelations Revealed?
Jean 31:07
Yeah.
iON 31:07
The damnest thing. They got a little section in there about the Vial Judgments. Remembert those?
Jean 31:14
Yeah.
iON 31:14
They go laterally. Those apply specifically to and even also and even to the Book of the Dead.
Jean 31:26
Okay, okay. Those judgments can apply but I (tape corrupted)
iON 31:34
Don't say it like, don't say it like that. Say it, is this applied the same way. 'Cuz sometimes the words are not perfect, and if we - if you get us curdling up to agree into that condition repose to the response to this thing that bla bla bla bla bla bla, then it becomes a mess, so we can't do that.
Jean 31:53
Okay.
iON 31:53
What we got to do, what we got to do - oh, tell Roxy don't worry that the Berlin brothels have opened back up. It's gonna be - tell her it's gonna be okay, Bob. Call Roxy. It's her time to be on. Call her and tell her it's gonna be okay. Because the brothels in - the brothels in Berlin have opened.
Bob 32:06
Okay, thank you.
iON 32:15
So that's important. We would've been worried about that.
Denny 32:18
This is Denny, may I interject just one thought that came back to me -
iON 32:23
Hey, Denny.
Denny 32:23
- about the Tet of gold?
iON 32:26
Yes.
Denny 32:26
In that Tet of gold, are the dead gonna partake of the drops and magnesium?
iON 32:33
No, no, you don't, no, no. You put it on their neck in a vessel. Do you remember the words? Remember the words when you lay em out but don't let them cut their head off? You lay it on the dead person's neck at their funeral.
Denny 32:51
Okay, but these are dead people that have been dead for a long time to come back to the -
iON 32:58
Not necessarily. How long is a long time?
Denny 33:05
Well, you got me there. So I don't know how long. I think how long might be (indistinct).
iON 33:09
We don't either. Maybe so long - wong hong low? Mm hmm, we know that one.
Denny 33:15
Yeah. I do, too. Okay, excuse me about that.
iON 33:20
No, no. It's okay. We like a good question. Hey, he's actually - hey, everybody. Denny, unlike y'all, Denny's listening. There. That's what you need to hear. Denny is listening. It's good. Nice.
Bob 33:35
Correct. Okay, so let's see who else - people have come. Did you want to say something, Nan?
Nan 33:46
I missed today's reading.
Bob 33:49
Okay, forget it. Shut up.
Nan 33:51
Right, but I had a -
iON 33:49
We did, too.
Nan 33:51
Well, -
iON 33:52
We did, too. We did too.
Bob 33:54
We're doin' the - you got somethin' to say about the Egyptian Book of the Dead?
Nan 33:58
Yeah. Now, there's dead walking around. And it said that you're in your meatsack body or you're not but you're still alive. You're eternal.
iON 34:11
Yeah.
Nan 34:12
And then if you're gonna be brought back from the dead, you need your court reporter, the soul.
iON 34:19
Right. Perfect. That's good.
Nan 34:24
But, how -
iON 34:24
For somebody who missed it, you're doing pretty - for somebody who missed this, you're doing pretty good, darlin'.
Nan 34:28
Yeah. But, how does one lose his soul? Um, -
iON 34:33
You're like Bob, you get tangled up with something and you get lost in space. Have you ever had so much to drink that you woke up somewhere and you don't know how you got there?
Nan 34:45
No, but I heard about it.
iON 34:47
You should try that. If you do that, it's got the blackout - oh God, we can't say blackout. Damn. Sorry. He's got this messed up. The censors are going to be on us again. They're already on Bob now. This is just terrible. This is despicable, you, so what we got to do is we got to clean this back up. It becomes a marker place where you can separate yourself from the doer. Be ye doers of the word. You can drop that off, but the soul never dies. But you can drop it off, you can separate. Now, people who enjoy like the "Three Faces of Eve," remember Sally Field? We just love Sally Field. She was the "Flying Nun," too; remember the Flying Nun?
Nan 34:47
Right.
iON 35:31
She didn't she wasn't on the 'Courtship of Eddie's Father" though, but she was on the "Flying Nun" and the "Three Faces of Eve." And then she had all these different, different personalities. Would that be multiple souls, or the same soul keeping track of three different people? You see? Which way? So, so, so, so, so, a needle pulling thread, you have to sort that out. Are they that - do they have that much capacity? Maybe. It's pretty interesting to see how you would canonicalize the soul issue with someone who suffers from or benefits from multi-personality disorder. Interesting, isn't it?
Bob 36:21
Okay, thank you, Nan. Very good.
Nan 36:24
Okay. Thank you.
Bob 36:25
Did we find out what - the soul can be dropped off if you come back? Is that what he said?
iON 36:32
Yeah, no, we told how to lose it. Like when you had too much to drink and you don't - you know, you do it all the time, Bob, where you wake up. You don't know where you are and you don't know how you got there.
Bob 36:41
Right.
iON 36:41
You know. Ha ha.
Bob 36:42
Yeah. I OD'd on apples or something. Somethin'.
iON 36:48
Oh, my God, yeah. Let me tell you what he was doing. He had like nine pounds of apple seeds, trying to make enough arsenic to off himself, and he couldn't get enough seeds to stay down. He kept throwin' them up. He got em tangled up in his coffee enema. There's arsenic in them apple seeds, but he couldn't get it out for some reason. They just gave him bad gas. They just gave him bad gas, and we don't put up with bad smells.
Bob 37:13
I had to go stay at a hotel. So, so -
iON 37:17
That was terrible (overtalk) dead people.
Bob 37:18
- what's it about the soul? Did Nan start off saying that these dead people have to acquire a soul? Is that what you said?
iON 37:26
We don't know Bob, she didn't even listen. She don't know. What does she know?
Bob 37:30
No, she said that. Is that what you said, Nan? Do you remember? (iON laughs)
Nan 37:34
There are dead walking around. I mean, you're dead walking around and you're in your meatsack or they're not but you're still eternal. You need your court reporter which is the scribe. And so I wanted to know how one loses his soul. And you can have a soul but you can't have a soul without the hara. I don't understand that.
Bob 38:03
Okay, well, your phone's lousy. I don't know what you've been saying.
Nan 38:06
Okay.
Bob 38:06
But you were, were you saying, asking, what does a dead person do with a soul? What was your question?
Nan 38:14
How does one lose the soul? Yes.
Bob 38:18
Oh, when you die, you lose the soul.
Nan 38:21
But you could be dead walking around.
Bob 38:24
Well, that that's when you've come back. Did you pick up the soul that was around the physical lurking when you came back? That should be your question. Did you ask that?
Nan 38:34
No, that's a good question. iON, -
Eira 38:37
Yeah, that is the question.
Nan 38:39
- do you pick up the soul, iON?
iON 38:43
Do we pick up the soul?
Bob 38:45
No, those guys with the chainsaws on the Toronto beach, Cherry beach. Had they picked up their soul when they came back?
iON 38:55
Sometimes yes, sometimes no.
Bob 38:58
Okay, let's deal with it later. Thank you very much, Nan. I'll just get a couple more points here. Did you want to say something Jaun about this?
iON 39:09
Oh, Scott's muted. He's about to have a nervous breakdown 'cuz he's (overtalk)
Bob 39:13
I know we're gonna get to Scott, we're gonna get to Scott. We got lots of -
iON 39:15
No, no, no, wait. We were trying to get it unmuted so you can hear, that you can hear the bitch in the basement scream one more time.
Bob 39:22
No, I don't want to - we'll get to you Scott, just get everything turned off. Jaun, do you have something to say about the Book of the Dead?
iON 39:27
Kick her in the head, Scott, kick her in the head. Make the bitch stop screaming.
Bob 39:31
Finish her off Scott, finish her off with (indistinct) of some form.
iON 39:37
Ha ha. No, he won't have nothing to play with tomorrow if we do that, Bob. You gotta keep her around. Rub the skin, rub the skin on the lotion.
Bob 39:43
You're trying to say something, Jaun?
Jaun 39:45
Yeah, I have a question. Thanks.
Bob 39:47
Shut - here's somebody, iON. Go ahead.
Jaun 39:48
Hi iON. Hi Bob. You said the capacity of the soul; is it multiple souls or the same soul keeping track of three people. So, which one is it?
iON 40:01
What we said, both. We asked a question, posed it in the form of a question as well. What do you do with people who have multiple personalities? What do you do with them? Are they multiple people?
Bob 40:17
Hey, Juan, in eternity, there's going to be both in eternity. You must always remember that. That answers all questions.
Jaun 40:24
Okay.
Bob 40:24
If you wondered whether this happened, or that happened, in eternity, everything happens. So, we don't have to make a choice.
Jaun 40:30
Brilliant.
iON 40:31
And see, it's gotten into a point where we're very definitive about what is because we've already done this. But now as you see what's happening, the more and more and more y'all keep putting power into the Tech Body - this has to do with the Book of the Dead, so don't judge us. We got this Bob, you can, you can relax, it's gonna be okay. That's the Book of the Dead. What happens is, the more power you start pumping into the Tech Body, then that affects how the Book of the Dead applies, and it also enters into a condition of probability into what's happening. And you're going, ahhhh, now this turns into a whole nother thing, you see. And then the next thing you know, it's Chewbacca for President. And you're like, what? You can't have Chewbacca for President. But if you keep giving power to the Tech Body, then guess what? Ah ha. It's possible because you're changing, you're giving it so much power that those powers become a - Bob's word, trompe l'oeil in the condition. Into the condition, you see.
Bob 41:49
Okay, very good. Thank you.
Jaun 41:51
Thank you. Thank you.
Bob 41:53
Thank you, Jaun.
iON 41:53
You're welcome, darlin'.
Bob 41:54
Okay, Robyn, do you have a question about the Egyptian Book of the Dead? (short pause)
iON 41:57
It's too hot. She can't do it. Bob.
Bob 42:14
Heh heh. Have you got a question about the Egyptian Book of the Dead, Robyn? Are you trying to get in?
iON 42:20
It's too hot. She can't do it. She's got to collect herself. You know how it is. She told you.
Bob 42:28
All right.
Robyn 42:28
No, sorry. Sorry. Sorry. No, no, no, no, no. I was on mute. I muted myself. I'm sorry. I'm unmuted now.
Bob 42:36
You come you can't know that? Why it takes you so long to figure out you're on mute?
Robyn 42:41
I will tell you. Because it's I have - I'm on the phone in the background. And then I look at the chat line in the screen on my telephone. Okay, I can't see both. I keep it muted 'cuz I never expect to be called on 'cuz I never call this early.
iON 42:59
Awwww.
Bob 43:00
So you can't see. You can't see, but you can hear us.
Robyn 43:04
Bob, can you hear me? (inaudible) myself by, by rote. So, no, my question was that I said while I was muted was do ascended or ascending people pay any attention to the dead? And do they use the Egyptian Book of the Dead at all? Or did they -
iON 43:30
They do.
Robyn 43:31
- play with dead people or do they just move on and ignore them?
iON 43:36
Both. Both. Both -
Robyn 43:38
Okay.
iON 43:38
Both. Look, consider it all, consider it all in a happy placement of stasis. Stasis.
Robyn 43:49
Ascended people consider everyone in a happy place of stasis?
iON 43:55
Yeah, they can see it. See, we see you as an ascended god.
Robyn 43:59
Right.
iON 43:59
We just can't convince you of it yet, but we see you that way. 'Cuz that's the way you are to us.
Robyn 44:05
Yeah.
iON 44:06
And if we can convince you, we win. But if not, then you got to wait. But it's all good 'cuz more times than not you can. So, good. So, it's possible.
Robyn 44:16
Okay, 'cuz of the basic under - okay, the basic underlying tenet of the questions that I've been formulating and pondering have to do with the actions and beingness of ascending people and whether - and how they operate in all of the conditions. And I know ascending is different from - asending and the continuing on to it and ascended are two different, are two different things and they operate in different ways. That, I -
iON 45:00
Well, there are two different, two different aspects. Wait a minute. There's two different aspects of maybe the same thing.
Robyn 45:08
Okay.
iON 45:09
You see. Maybe.
Robyn 45:10
All right.
iON 45:10
That's the part you're not sure. Maybe. And your words are sound, your words are sound, it's just, you can't discount it 'cuz it doesn't work every single time every single time. So that when we go, whoa, whoa, wait, wait, wait. Yeah. 'Cuz if it doesn't, then the next thing you know, everything is subject to gettin' sidebared.
Robyn 45:29
Yeah. (dog barks in background) Oops. I'm gonna raise my windows so that you don't hear the - I'm at the ocean watching the sunset. It's cooler. Thank you. Ha ha.
iON 45:40
Nice. Nice.
Bob 45:41
Hey, Robyn, you say you can't, you can't watch the chat line and see your mute screen at the same time. Is that what you were saying?
Robyn 45:49
Well, I just have mute - mute is either on or off. And I have it on automatically so that if you ever unmute me and I've got background noise, you don't hear it. So that when you call me and unmute me, I push the mute button. It's like self muting. So I - it's on automatically so I keep - since it's on and I hardly ever talk, I keep thinking - I don't think about it. So then I realized
Bob 46:18
So, okay, so when I called you, when I called you, you forgot you're on mute.
Robyn 46:23
Right. And I kept - and I started talking immediately.
Bob 46:27
Okay. All right. Thank you very much. Any other questions we'll get back to you later. Okay.
Robyn 46:34
Thank you.
Bob 46:34
So then we're left -
iON 46:36
We cleaned up the Tavern on the Green, too, by the way. Go ahead.
Robyn 46:40
Yeah, I'm sorry you thought I was shitty. You didn't reply to my comment on the chat line. -
iON 46:46
Yes, we did.
Robyn 46:47
And it was -
iON 46:48
Yes, we did.
Robyn 46:49
No, not -
iON 46:49
We just didn't do it on the chat line. We didn't do it on the chat line.
Robyn 46:53
Oh, then I'll (indistinct) -
iON 46:54
You'll hear it.
Robyn 46:54
- somewhere. Okay, -
You can always catch us up. You'll catch up.
- yeah, 'cuz tailgate was finished, so -
iON 47:02
Correct.
Bob 47:03
iON, I don't think she'll hear it. I muted that part. That got edited out of this week's private session. (iON laughts)
Robyn 47:12
I heard it, I heard it all.
Bob 47:15
No, you didn't hear it. I haven't played it yet.
Robyn 47:19
Oh, no, that's - oh, on your private session. Oh, okay.
Bob 47:23
Yeah, the new one coming. There was a whole bunch of stuff iON was saying about everybody. I said, nah, they can't take this. Sorry. Edited out.
iON 47:32
He almost said shit. He almost said shit. Notice how he was being all, notice how he was being all proper. Now, now that the, now that all the alphabet people are chasing him, the alphabet people are chasing him, he's being all proper. "iON says nigger, we don't say nigger. We never say nigger. You'll never catch us saying nigger. Every time we do, you won't hear us."
Robyn 47:54
iON, I wasn't, I was just complaining about shitty. I mean, I can be snotty, and I can be snobbish, but shitty, not usually.
iON 48:06
Right. Right. Typically. That's right, typically.
Robyn 48:09
Okay. Enough said. Talk to you later.
iON 48:11
Good. Happy days.
Bob 48:12
Now, there's Scott. No sound, so that's good, Scott. Well, a little bit.
Scott 48:45
Am I shitty?
iON 48:45
No, you're doing great. Hey, you're doing great. Hey, what did you use? You should get some propofal. Propofal will - they won't make all them screaming noises if you've got them anesthetized properly.
Bob 48:48
Okay, well, iON, before he addresses I want to - he wrote way back when I was playing the private session when we were talking about you were recommending "No, do not get your kids to read. Do not read, do not teach them." And, oh, and you said except phonetic inferences or something like that? What are phonetic inferences?
iON 48:58
Oh, like the way Carolyn sees things and says it. And if it's not something she uses all the time, it can throw her. Well, reading, riding a bicycle, fucking, eating, going to the bathroom. Those become autonomic responses after a little while. Even if it's in a strange toilet, you can still figure it out how to do it, you see? And so that, that response can be the phonetic slang that's now becoming wiggles. What are those ibits - ah those -
Bob 49:36
Emojis. Emojis.
iON 49:37
- you can - oh, no, no, you can - well, you can speak in Wingdings. There's a whole language of Wingdings, so you can do that.
Bob 49:46
Fine, but I don't know what you're saying. When you had that phrase phonetic inferences, was that - had it something to do with phonetics of speech, or writing?
iON 49:54
Yeah. Yeah. Well, no, doesn't have to be writing 'cuz we're saying don't write. So how can it be about writing when we say don't write?
Bob 50:00
I know. So, what are phonetic inferences? And you say they're automatic robots?
iON 50:06
Auh auh auh. That's what it is.
Carolyn 50:08
(in background) (indistinct)
Bob 50:10
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, the phatic stuff.
iON 50:14
Brrrble (non-word)
Bob 50:16
That's phatic! Or the verbum. McLuhan called the verbum. V-e-r-b-u-m. Okay. So here's what Scott wrote. "This is one of iON's therapeutic distortions." He's quoting that. I don't know where that comes from. He says, "There's nothing wrong with being literate as long as it's not the foundation of culture. In fact, after something has become obsolete, there is usually more of it." That's McLuhan's definition of obsolescence. It's not the usual, obsolete, it's gone. No, when McLuhan says something is obsolete, it's not constitutive. It's not shaping anything, but there's a lot more of it because it's harmless. So he says, "In fact, after something has become obsolete, like books, there's usually more of it. So literacy is not going to disappear. Quite the contrary, people in an ESP-based culture will be more literate." How do you respond to that, iON? Do you agree with him?
iON 51:13
Okay, the only way we agree with him is the point to say, is the point to say that the reason they become more literate is because they're arguing against the lack of literacy. They're arguing and pushing against something does make more of it. Doesn't mean it's better, like screaming about the protesters rioting makes them riot more. They can just say, it's your town, burn it down, do what you want to. Don't show it, don't play it, don't do it. And the second they're not on the TV making white people be dead while black lives matter, then all of a sudden, there's nothing left, there's nothing to do.
Bob 51:51
That's exactly what McLuhan - he used to go around to the governments and when they got terrorist hijacked and all that he said, just have no coverage. iON agrees. You're agreeing with McLuhan there. So -
iON 48:45
I agree with McLuhan's daddy more, more than I agree with McLuhan.
Bob 48:50
All right. Now is - what is this? But I got from your talk that the dropping of books is inevitable, and there won't be any reading, and older people other than maybe millennials and younger do not understand how books
iON 52:05
We're sorry, we're sorry -
Bob 48:56
Don't worry about it. Listen.
iON 52:34
Are we still talking about the Book of the Dead? Are we still talking about the Book of the Dead?
Bob 52:37
Yeah. Yeah, we are. Yes, we are. So
iON 52:41
Okay. Just wanted to make sure we're on topic.
Bob 52:43
Yeah. That's right. You're right, iON. We're still talking about it. So. So these people, the younger people, they don't need books they think. The older people, they can't believe books will be completely disappeared. But you're saying that aren't you, iON? It's all gonna disappear completely.
iON 53:04
Yes. Yes. And look, here's why, here's why. Here's, here's the proof, and McLuhan didn't say this. That the Tech Body was going to absorb every book. Ask Carolyn how many books she has on her Kindle. Ask Carolyn how many she has.
Bob 53:20
She has thousands.
iON 53:20
Now she doesn't have to, and now she doesn't have to -
Bob 53:23
Yeah, but she reads. She reads a lot.
iON 53:24
- put it on her Kindle, she can put it on her phone.
Bob 53:25
She's always reading.
iON 53:27
Good, congratulations, but the books ain't there no more. It's gone. They're gonna go.
Bob 53:32
Oh, so you're saying - see, look, there it is. We find out iON is not a radical, people are gonna read more. They just won't be using the hardcover books. That's all you're saying?
Michael 53:43
The Kindle is not a book.
Bob 53:46
Hold it, Michael.
iON 53:44
Right. Until that all goes away, then the books are gone. You don't have to burn them.
Bob 53:51
Till that all goes away. Till what goes away? Then the books are gone. See? We don't know what that sentence refers to. Till what goes all away?
iON 54:00
Jesus god. It rhymes with E-
Bob 54:02
No, no, it doesn't.
iON 54:05
- M-P.
Bob 54:05
Oh, okay, when the EMP happens, then there'll be no, no reading content, digital reading content. And there still will be books out there.
iON 54:18
Are there? Really? You got two, -
Bob 54:20
Yeah.
iON 54:20
-but nobody else does, Bob.
Bob 54:20
Yeah, I know, there'll be some few books out there, but nobody readin' them. Look -
iON 54:24
Everybody else buys, everybody else buys French books that are leather bound to fill up their bookshelves to make them look pretty. You'd put them in where you have to cover up your dead people in the library.
Bob 54:34
Yeah, but look, you're saying that when the EMP happens, the -
iON 54:40
It's all gone.
Bob 54:40
- reading of books will be gone. The Kindle version will be gone.
iON 54:42
Well, there won't be any - Bob, there won't be anything to read. You can still read, but there won't be anything to read.
Bob 54:52
Ha ha ha. Well, there are books lying around. People raid libraries or people's homes, but here won't be -
iON 54:59
They're burning them!
Bob 55:00
- oh, okay.
iON 55:00
They'll go - they go - the looters - check this out -
Bob 55:02
They're burning. See how iON adapts whatever is going on? He heard they're burning in California, so he just absorbs that in immediately.
iON 55:08
- check this out, check it out. They can all riot, they can all go to the bookstore and riot the bookstore to steal the books so they can read and find out how silly it is to read from books stolen at the bookstore. Or, or, or, or, they can go to the Bible store and get the fine linen paper that the Bible is printed on. They can take it and roll marijuana cigarettes with it 'cuz it's almost as thin as paper, as rolling papers. They can roll a fatty, they can roll a fatty with John 3:16.
Bob 55:50
Okay.
iON 55:51
And burn it. Burn it.
Bob 55:53
Yeah, okay, so let's try to retrace what the confusion you're laying out here. So, the only thing people can't believe is that books, hardcover books will be gone. Okay. Now, people gradually see that, but they, okay, let's call it reading. People will continue reading but it will be on Kindle.
iON 55:53
Mm hmm. For a minute. They don't even do Kindle any more.
Bob 56:17
Yeah. You mean reading's going away? Are you saying reading's going away?
iON 56:23
There's - there'll be nothing to read.
Bob 56:26
Right. But they'll be reading on Kindle until the EMP, then they won't be able to read anymore. And that'll be, -
iON 56:32
There won't be anything to read.
Bob 56:33
- that'll happen long enough? Yeah. And then they will never recover any reading material when our 5G fixes it?
iON 56:42
No, because the generation - they're all passing away that even know how to write longhand. They don't even teach kids how to write anymore. They can't even write. You can't write a new book so they don't know how to write.
Bob 56:53
Okay, so they - some of the kids know how to read today, but it's fading out. And more and more people don't know how to read. And that's going to keep going. And then the - there'll be no books, but if they wanted to read on Kindle until the EMP, a few of them will read 'cuz they learned how to read. But you're saying the majority of people will - what will they be doing instead of reading? Just fucking and talking?
iON 57:19
Yeah. And, and Tik Tok and "Savage Love."
Bob 57:30
The only education for boys is learn how to acquire fellatio or do it.
iON 57:39
Success or failure, success or failure will be based on your ability to engage in fellatio-based relationships.
Now why, why will that dominate over the next 100 years?
'Cuz the function, the function is autonomic. And the autonomic system - and it gets a little bit based because you're gonna kind of throw fidelity out the window. But it's kind of almost happened anyway. 'Cuz you can be married to somebody and have a happy relationship. And then meanwhile you're out dickin' everything that will be still and be just as happy, happy, happy, happy as you can be. You don't have to be necessary - what do you call it? We don't know the word when you only sleep with one bitch.
Bob 58:22
Monogamous.
iON 58:24
Monogo - we can't even say that. We can't even say that.
Bob 58:27
Monogamous.
iON 58:28
Yeah, yeah. That's right. Oof. Okay, you can try that. But anyway, there's, there's less of that because it's kind of like the way dogs will go around and they smell everybody and whoever's in heat can be bred kind of a thing. It's kinda like that position. Now, that's not being crude, but what you're looking at as far as this whole process goes, it's kind of what's happening. See, whether you're against it or not you can shout at it, but it'll just make more of it as McLuhan would say. So people are doing - you'd say, "It wasn't that way, this is, this is "Mad Men." This is the way it's always been, sleeping with flight attendants, stewardesses and stewards, and all that stuff. It's always been like that." We go, no, not like that. Because before there was a bit of a bad boy mentality, you see. But now what's happened is the bad boy mentality is gone. You can sleep with dogs now if you want too. Or, I'm, I'm a dog fucker. You can't, you still can't goats. Now, that hasn't gone mainstream, but dogs is okay. Dogs is all right. Chickens -
Bob 59:37
Okay, so you're saying that -
iON 59:39
- are okay. Chicken fucker. There's a lot of chicken fuckers.
Bob 59:42
- Monica Lewinsky was avant garde, because she -
iON 59:46
Yes.
Bob 59:46
- blew Clinton and that was not sex as Clinton said. He said, I did not have sex with her. That was the model for what you're talking about.
iON 59:55
Correct. But then when she captured his DNA, the blue dress, and then presented the cigar that he used to make her happy, there's the rest of the story. All of a sudden you're having another conversation, you see. That's taboo. Today, that's a "Me Too." And now "Me Too" is even gone. You see, now I'll do what I want to do. Fuck you. I'll do what I want to do. I don't care.
Bob 1:00:21
Okay, so how do pre-puberty kids do this? When does the boy start learning fellatio?
iON 1:00:28
I would say the problem, the problem, the problem is now that the way that the children are maturing, they're starting to even cycle at 10 years old. They're very early on younger and younger and younger because of the TV age. It's forcing puberty to kick in earlier and earlier and earlier. They have to.
Bob 1:00:51
TV as a medium does that?
iON 1:00:54
Apparently.
Bob 1:00:57
It alters the physiology, the biology of kids.
iON 1:01:03
We agree.
Bob 1:01:05
Right. So, so what - let's see. Ten years old, that's grade five and six. So there's - it's normal among the little kids when they have their parties that they fellatio each other. That's normal.
iON 1:01:19
Yeah. Yeah, it's not so invasive otherwise.
Bob 1:01:23
Not so what?
iON 1:01:25
Invasive.
Bob 1:01:27
All right. Okay, very good. Now let's let's see if Scott wants to pick - this may not be part of the Book of the Dead, all that I just did. We'll see if Scott wants to (overtalk) the Book of the Dead or
iON 1:01:39
What? Oh, hell, no, hell no. There's rules. Nah ah ah. No. (overtalk)
Bob 1:01:45
Ha ha. Okay, so this will be part of the Book of the Dead.
iON 1:01:48
Oh, well, what you're talkin' about is books, and the Book of the Dead was a book so we'll save you an ass pass this time.
Bob 1:01:54
Oh, yeah. Okay, good point.
iON 1:01:54
We'll save your ass this time.
Bob 1:01:54
This will be the last, this is the last record of the one of the last books, the Book of the Dead.
iON 1:02:06
No, yours is the last book, Bob, if you ever write the son of a bitch. You're sittin' here complaining about writin', reading and writin' and you won't finish your own damn book. (Bob laughs) That's ridicuous. He's sittin' here arguing about how the day that, the day that, the day the music died, and he sits there with a whole orchestra and won't play anything with his two-cycle engine, trying to prove Zappa was a Dylan fan.
Bob 1:02:30
Ha ha. Okay, all right, Scott. You're on, Scott. Anything you want to say about the Book of the Dead?
Scott 1:02:38
Yeah, hi, iON. It's about the
iON 1:02:42
Scott, what's her name?
Scott 1:02:43
What?
iON 1:02:44
Hey, Scott, what, what's her name?
Scott 1:02:47
What's her name?
Bob 1:02:48
The one you just killed. The person who just killed.
Scott 1:02:50
Oh.
iON 1:02:51
The one that - she's not dead. The one that's captive in the lower chambers.
Scott 1:02:57
I don't, I don't, well, actually, my, my downstairs neighbor is not there. She's, she's taking care of a guy who's dying on the first floor. So, I don't know who
iON 1:03:15
The plot, the plot thickens. (overtalk)
Bob 1:03:16
Okay, so, Carolyn just said you're mistaking, you're mistaking Carolyn, iON. Carolyn's the one who made the noises that you thought were Scott related.
Scott 1:03:25
Yeah, I didn't notice any noises.
iON 1:03:27
We were talking about, we were talking about the screaming, the shrilling -
Bob 1:03:31
I think Carolyn was making - Carolyn's saying she was doing the screaming.
iON 1:03:34
We were, we were making, we were making, we were making it fun. We were making it fun for Scott because of his always - we're giving validity to his "Silence of the Lambs" remark.
Bob 1:03:45
Yeah. Okay. All right. So it's a put on.
iON 1:03:51
Yeah, it is fun. If Scott (overtalk) right. My downstairs bitch I killed her and she's trying to kill somebody else, and the dead guy's not here and I'll get her. I got him and I'm gonna get her next. So it's all good. Many hogs for everybody.
Bob 1:04:07
Okay, Scott, talk about the dead book or whatever.
iON 1:04:11
Is it hog maw? No, yes, hell it is. Oh, no. Oh, hell, no, he's not through.
Bob 1:04:17
What are you talking about?
iON 1:04:17
Gotta follow the rules.
Bob 1:04:19
No, I'm following the rules. I want you to shut up and let Scott speak for a minute.
iON 1:04:26
As long it's about the Book of the Dead.
Scott 1:04:28
Yeah, I was just wondering about the ankhamu flowers.
Bob 1:04:33
Hey, Scott, you shouldn't be so echoey. Put your phone on or something. You're too, like in a chamber. (iON laughs) Well, there's that chamber again.
iON 1:04:43
The chamber's what we, the chamber's what we were talking about, Bob.
Bob 1:04:45
Ha ha. What we were pointing out. You're in a chamer, fuckin', Scott. Torture chamber.
iON 1:04:49
She's in the chamber. She's in the chamber and she's not fighting because she's (overtalk).
Scott 1:04:53
I ordered new headphones and microphones so they should be here next week.
Bob 1:04:58
Okay. All right. Thank you.
Scott 1:04:59
This is temporary. But any rate, I was thinking the ankh is like a cross with a circle at the top.
iON 1:05:00
That's right.
Scott 1:05:02
So, the ankhamu flower would be like the cross and the crown. So the flower -
iON 1:05:20
Why, why, why would it be like that?
Scott 1:05:23
Because the, the circle at the top is the crown. And the crown chakra and it's the, it's the one of the rings in the, in the 14th chromosome.
iON 1:05:41
Chromosome 14. Chromosome 14.
Scott 1:05:45
Yeah, so that, so there's a ring, so I call it the cross and crown which, of course, was the emblem (dropped words) that was Mary Baker Eddy's sort of logo. So, I'm pretty familiar with that.
iON 1:05:58
You dropped off. You dropped off again.
Bob 1:06:01
You dropped off a sentence. Let me say this. I was gonna bring up the chromosome 14. Has that got anything to do with the ankh? Did Scott just address that? What are you guys saying about chromosome 14 in relation to these two symbols? iON? Are you two saying something about that?
iON 1:06:21
What? No.
Bob 1:06:23
Okay. He's talking about the ankh. Is there any reference to the chromosome 14, the arms and rings in the ankh symbol?
iON 1:06:30
Yes that's what it stands for. We did that 1000 years ago. We did that with the Emerald Tablets.
Bob 1:06:34
Okay. You got that, Scott? It's a symbol of chromosome 14. Okay, you got that?
Scott 1:06:39
And I was saying that it's also a symbol of healing because it was Mary Baker Eddy's logo, in, you know, science and health. And the Christian Science religion, their symbol is a cross and a crown. With the crown covering the cross.
Bob 1:06:56
And that's connected to the ankh?
Scott 1:07:00
Well, that's what I was thinking that it was some kind of a - maybe Miss Eddy didn't know that, but it was some kind of a symbol, it's like coming through. And the whole idea is that people are, is that the, the living humans are, are perfect, but they think they're imperfect because of sin and because of judgment, and less than and all that kind of stuff. So, a lot of this sort of fits into the Christian Science way of looking at things. And the idea was, you're supposed to see other people as perfect so that you, so that you can heal them of various things. So,
Bob 1:07:44
Okay. Okay, Scott. So, that symbol that they - they use the ankh, but you're saying there's this other symbol refers to healing. You're not connecting that to chromosome 14.
Scott 1:07:59
Well, I am, but I, - they sure didn't.
Bob 1:08:03
Well, ask iON. Did they know about that.
Scott 1:08:07
That's what I'm asking about. That's what I'm asking iON. Is that, is that the real meaning of the cross and the crowns have to do with chromosome 14?
iON 1:08:17
Yes.
Scott 1:08:19
Okay.
iON 1:08:19
We answered that already.
Bob 1:08:20
Right, but the next question - but yeah, but the next question, Scott, is, did the Christian Science people who use this, a symbol, the ankh, and you're saying it overlapped with some flower? Whatever (overtalk)
Scott 1:08:30
They didn't use the ankh.
iON 1:08:32
Ankh. Ankh.
Scott 1:08:32
They didn't use the ankh. They use the cross and the crown. I just see it as resembling the ankh.
Bob 1:08:39
Okay, okay, so now the question is, do Christian Science know that the cross and arm or whatever you're saying, represented chromosome 14? I doubt if they knew that.
Scott 1:08:50
No, no. I know they didn't know that because I grew up with Christian Science.
Bob 1:08:54
So what's your question? What's your question about that second thing?
Scott 1:08:58
Well, it's about the symbolism of the I mean, the the notion that in the electrical era, we were slowly awakening into our potential and, and so the history of various movements like the Christian Science movement and stuff, sort of pre (words dropped) formal cause evidence of what was going to happen in the future.
iON 1:09:25
Too many words.
Bob 1:09:26
Okay, you did blimp out for a second, but, iON, did did the Christian Science symbol and other movements of say 100 years ago responding to the electric Renaissance, the electranissance, I think, is Eric McLuhan's term. Were they picking up on what you reveal and complete with their symbolism, these previous movements?
iON 1:09:49
Okay, we - that's okay. That's not good, but it's okay.
Bob 1:09:56
Okay, you're saying they were picking up on it, but what would you say Christian Science didn't get about healing? And we know you don't like the word healing. What did they miss? Scott's wondering, you know, we sound like Christian Science dogma. Well, how would you - I know we're not that, so, what's the difference between us and Christian Science?
iON 1:10:19
Oh, Christian Science tried to use the example of some of our definitive positions and make them into a religion. We don't use it as a religion or something as a tenant to follow, we're saying that's the reason why it is. The difference in trying to make you believe something, it's just we don't care if you believe it or not. It's okay, we were just givin' (overtalk)
Bob 1:10:39
Too much for them to believe as a fact, they had to make it almost like a theory or something special, a special way to think.
iON 1:10:47
Correct.
Bob 1:10:49
So you getting that Scott?
Scott 1:10:52
Yeah. That's sort of what I figured.
Bob 1:10:55
All right.
iON 1:10:55
Good.
Scott 1:10:56
I figured that. Now, one other thing that is related to that is this, is this also related to the lotus?
iON 1:11:10
It's an example of how the lotus blooms.
Scott 1:11:15
Okay, 'cuz isn't that would be the flower part of it?
iON 1:11:17
Mm hmm. The (indistinct)
Bob 1:11:22
So, what, what did you just say?
Scott 1:11:27
The lotus blooms out of, out of a cesspool, basically. It blooms above the water. And the water can be like filthy and stuff like that, but the lotus blooms above it. So when it talks about the ankhamu flowers, I'm suggesting that it's a, it's an oblique reference to the lotus.
Bob 1:11:51
Because they float above? Do those flowers float above?
Scott 1:11:56
Well, the ankh has a flower or a crown above a cross. So the cross is the part that's below that represents the, the little man or the division between the little man and the ascended man. And the, and the circle at the top of the ankh is the lotus flower. That's sort of the way I perceive it. Is that correct?
Bob 1:12:24
Okay, so - iON?
iON 1:12:27
Good enough. Good enough.
Bob 1:12:29
Good enough. Yeah, but, and the problem is you're dealing with another thing, not the cross and arms, which is the actual symbol for chromosome 14. Just deal with that. Whether someone came up with something close or not. So, so, iON, you said Jesus knew what the - about the cross and arms and that's what the cross was. Did Jesus or any of the Jesuses ware a cross, or that came in later with the organization?
iON 1:12:46
No, the cross, that's what they did to Jesus; they hung him on a cross.
Bob 1:13:00
Yeah, yeah.
iON 1:13:01
Jesus didn't wear a cross. He didn't wear a cross. He was - the cross wore him, Bob. For Christ sakes.
Bob 1:13:07
Right. Here's what - but wait a minute. He knew about chromosome 14, so did he wear the ankh?
iON 1:13:15
No, he did not.
Bob 1:13:17
That was only in Egyptian culture? Hold it Scott. That was only in Egyptian culture?
iON 1:13:23
No, no. There's other cultures - many other cultures, but that didn't apply.
Bob 1:13:29
They did not, they did not refer to chromosome 14 with it.
iON 1:13:35
Yes, they did, but Jesus didn't.
Bob 1:13:38
All right. But the people that were referring to chromosome 14, did they know about it the way we know about it?
iON 1:13:46
Not quite the same way but close. They had a notion. That's why, that's where your Monty Python world come from, Bob, that you so love.
Bob 1:13:53
Yeah, the Monty Python is more accurate about it. The way it actually was.
Scott 1:13:58
Yeah, it's cultural appropriation is all it is. They just appropriated it.
Bob 1:14:03
Well, no, okay. They - no, they had it. What did it represent for them, the chromosome 14 cross? I mean, if they didn't know, did they know about genetics and the DNA spiral?
iON 1:14:16
Well, we'd say no, 'cuz y'all don't either. We've been telling you about it forever now and y'all still don't know it. So, they sure didn't know it.
Bob 1:14:23
All right. So where did, where did the symbol come from? Early Kohathite culture like way back at the beginning of the beginning of the fall? There was?
iON 1:14:31
At least, if not before. Day before - it is just today before tomorrow.
Bob 1:14:38
Right. So, so, Scott's saying it's cultural appropriation. That's just communication among cultures. That's all it was.
iON 1:14:45
Might be, might be mis - it might be misappropriations, mighten it?
Bob 1:14:50
Yeah. Okay, Scott, I'm finished. Did you want to say anything more about that?
Scott 1:14:55
No, no, I'm done.
Bob 1:14:58
Okay, so let's end the conversation.
iON 1:15:00
You should get a new, you should get a new bone saw, Scott. It will make your work so much cleaner.
Scott 1:15:06
Okay.
iON 1:15:07
The shit you're working with is terrible.
Bob 1:15:13
Bone saw?
iON 1:15:16
Bone saw. Yeah.
Bob 1:15:17
Oh, saw. Okay. All right. I think it's a - if she's listening, I think Sue Bone should call in and not talk about herself and ask some knowledge questions.
iON 1:15:27
AHHH. She can't - let's talk about Bob. Let's don't talk about yourself, let's talk only about Bob. That's all we talk about.
Bob 1:15:34
Well, okay, knowledge, Bob knowledge go together.
iON 1:15:36
Talk about Bob or Garrett Deane. Bob or Garrett Deane (overtalk),
Bob 1:15:39
I'm not asking for that.
iON 1:15:40
Anything else is taboo.
Bob 1:15:41
Yeah, all knowledge comes back to me. Oh, Scott, did you notice what I did on New Explorations? I started posting Cameron quotes from '99 and - well, '99. Way back there. Did you see those?
Scott 1:15:57
No, I haven't seen those yet.
iON 1:15:59
Yeah, so look for them. I just posted them. Adam appreciated it. But I'm gonna post stuff from the old McLuhan list, you know, interesting stuff by interesting people. So it's gonna be a new feature there where I post McLuhan letters on Alex Kuskis' place. And I'm posting this great dialogues, you know, 20 years ago, on the McLuhan list, only on Adam. So, if Alex wants to see it, he's gonna have to rejoin and come over to Adams' New Explorations.
Carolyn 0:01
Sheet 24, Bob. Sheet 24, and stop messing me up.
Bob 0:08
"The steward of the overseer of the seal, Nu, whose word is truth, begotten of the" bla, bla, bla, take over please. (iON laughs)
Carolyn 0:23
Ha ha. "The steward of the overseer of the seal, Nu, whose word is truth, begotten of the steward of the overseer of the seal, Amen-hetep, whose word is truth, saith:- Hail, ye Four Apes (Carolyn: So, apes. Did they know what apes were back then, iON?
iON 0:45
Of course, of course.
Carolyn 0:48
Are they the hairy beasts, the hairy beasts?
iON 0:52
They are, they are.
Carolyn 0:54
Wow. cool.
Bob 0:56
Hey, iON why does Carolyn have a slight dyslexia? She's always mispronouncing like, Amen-hetep, she goes Amen-heptep. She does that a lot when we're doing other stuff. She either reads over or glosses over it, doesn't care what she's saying. I don't know what it is. What do you say, iON? Why does she got dyslexia?
iON 1:16
Okay, here's, here's, here's - 'cuz when you're a doctor, they have to make it so that people can't copy your scripts. So, you have to have an intelligible longhand way to write. Well, she's done that so much, it's convert - transversed into typed words. So, she now does it, speaks it, the way she would write it as a very appropriate doctor writing scripts.
Carolyn 1:47
And one of that is true because -
iON 1:49
Trying to promote death by modern medicine.
Carolyn 1:52
I have been told that I can't be a doctor because my writing is so perfect. So there, both of you.
iON 1:59
Yeah, it's very clear.
Bob 2:01
Well, doesn't that show you how iON can quickly come up like a fucking demon with any explanation? Highly suspect, iON.
Carolyn 2:08
You can do that. I do that. We all do it except iON does it with everything.
Bob 2:13
Yeah. He does it very fast.
Carolyn 2:16
Yeah. Okay. Continuing: "Hail, ye Four Apes who sit in the bows of the Boat of Ra, who convey truth to Nebertcher, who sit in judgment on the oppresed man and on [his] oppressor, who make the gods to be contented by means of the flame of your mouths, who offer holly offerings to the gods and sepulchral (Carolyn: Say that for me, Bob.)
iON 2:55
Sepulchral like a sepulchre. Sepulchral.
Carolyn 3:01
Yeah, I used to think it was sep-le-curl, but it means graveyard, like graveyard.
iON 3:11
Tomb.
Bob 3:11
She can't say, she can't sepulchral. She can't do it. She'll go secural. Alphabet. She'll say alphabet when she can't get the word.
Carolyn 3:24
Vinnie, viddi, vicki.
Bob 3:25
Yeah, yeah. There. She said that wrong too. It's veni, vidi, vici, not vinnie, viddi, vicki.
Carolyn 3:32
So funeral meals "to the Spirit-souls, who live upon truth, and who feed upon truth of heart, who are without deceit and fraud, and to whom wickedness is an abomination. do ye away with my evil deeds, and put ye away my sins [which deserved stripes upon earth, and destroy ye every evil thing which appertaineth to me], and let there be no obstacle whatsoever on my part towards you. O grant ye that I may make my way through the Amehet, let me enter into Rasta, let me pass through the hidden pylons of Ament.
Bob 4:23
She could barely keep that simple one out. Ament. Ament, Carolyn. Very simple.
Carolyn 4:29
Ha ha. Yeah, I wonder what it is. I've always known that. But it's, I mean, these are words that we've never seen before, so I have to, I have to phrase them as phonetically. Maybe I never learned phonetics.
Bob 4:42
Are you saying you know you had that problem?
Carolyn 4:44
Yeah, of course.
Bob 4:45
That you weren't a good reader.
Carolyn 4:47
You've been saying that for decades.
Bob 4:49
Yes, but I didn't think you noticed it.
Carolyn 4:52
Oh, grant that Bob would shut his mouth. No, no, that's not it. "O grant that there may be given unto me shens cakes, and ale, and persen cakes, even as to the living Spirit-souls, and grant that I may enter into and come forth from Rasta."
Bob 5:15
You can go back and mispronouncing. This is too slow. Go back to your rapid stuff.
Carolyn 5:20
Oh, thank you. Okay, continuing.
iON 5:22
Okay, okay, wait, go - whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. You're missin' all the good parts. We tried to jump in but we thought (overtalk)
Carolyn 5:28
Yeah, Bob distracted me totally. Go ahead, iON.
iON 5:32
True. So what's happened is that the first part you got to look at what's happening. Now they're acknowledging - these are dead people acknowledging the Four Apes. Right?
Carolyn 5:42
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
iON 5:43
Because the Four Apes are in the Boat of Ra. Okay? Now, where did they come up with this, ah, people come out of - the humans come out of the butt's of monkeys?
Carolyn 5:56
Oh, yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah.
iON 5:58
Well, that, those stages of apprehension is what we would call it have to be marked or adjudicated. Now, adjudication means that you have a capacity that can allow something to be noted from one side or the other, or one part to the other. So all the dogmatic conditions that you would embrace into whatever you're doing has to bleed through to the dead, because the dead take those things with them back to the Robert E. Lee days. It wasn't - that was just normal. But those that were dead in that window, back to the, back to the cotton field, picking them cotton's, that's the thing that's being spoke about now, with the abolition of slavery and all those issues. They're still now more virulent now than they were when the slavin' days was goin' on Carolyn. So, they're making this same point right here that just because you scream at it doesn't mean it goes away. Even in the land of the dead, just 'cuz you rail at it doesn't dismiss it, nor does it vindicate it, or does it adjudicate it. You see?
Carolyn 6:40
Mm hmm. It's still there. Yeah, still there.
iON 7:22
And it's more. And that's what this is pointing out.
Carolyn 7:26
Yeah. Okay. So we, we take ourselves wherever we go, including all the bad bits.
iON 7:37
But now you see, you're trying to make your way through to get to the good stuff. The persimmon cakes.
Carolyn 7:46
Mm hmm. Okay. Oh, yeah. The cake. Yeah. Yeah, so we're looking for the good stuff. So are we ready to drop the bad?
iON 7:55
Yeah, but don't worry. Yeah, but don't worry. The Four Apes are fixin' to tell you something. Go ahead.
Carolyn 8:01
Ah ha. Okay. Got the words. "[The Four Apes make answer, saying]: Come thou, for we have done away with thy wickedness, and we have put away thy sin, along with thy sins upon earth which deserved stripes, (Carolyn: now that's stripes, is that deserve beatings, with things?)
iON 8:25
Yeah, stripes, meaning punishment. So if you do something wrong, you get messed up. If you smoke cigarettes, you die of cancer. If you bareback at the whore house, you get what you get or whatever else that goes on with gonorrhea and syphilis.
Carolyn 8:41
Got it. Ha ha. Okay, continuing: "and we have destroyed every evil thing which appertained to thee upon earth. Enter, therefore, unto Rasta, and pass through the hidden pylons of Amentet, and there shall be given unto thee shens cakes, and ale, and persen cakes, and thou shalt come forth and shalt enter in at thy desire, even as do those who are favoured [of the God], and thou shalt be called [to partake of offerings] each day in the horizon.
iON 9:16
So basically, the short version is the rain falls on the just and the unjust, but the favored and unfavored have a chance to be acknowledged. So you don't even have to be a chosen one to apply this conditioned response of engagement with the dead, 'cuz it's very particular now; the details are very - they're literal. And then the way it's laid out is the way it's laid out. On purpose.
Carolyn 9:46
Wow, very good. Continuing. And this is a new chapter and it's called: "THE CHAPTER OF A TET OF GOLD. The Osiris Ani, whose word is truth, saith:- Thou risest up for thyself, O Still-heart! Thou shinest for thyself, O Still-heart! Place thou thyself on thy base, I come, I bring unto thee a Tet of gold, thou shalt rejoice therein." So, we're at the golden part. That should be good.
iON 10:22
Mm hmm. Yes, but do you know what a Tet, a Tet of gold is?
Carolyn 10:28
I do not.
iON 10:30
Your drops.
Carolyn 10:31
Ahhh! Got it. Did you hear that, Bob? Tet of gold. RNA ReSet drops. He, he, he. Bob's first product. "APPENDIX (From the Papyrus of Nebseni and the Papyrus of Nu). Rise up thou, O Osiris, thou hast thy (Carolyn: hmm is that a misspelling? I have backbaone. Should it be backbone?)
iON 11:06
No, no, it pronounced correctly, but they mean a backbone.
Carolyn 11:11
Okay. "Rise up thou, O Osiris, thou hast thy backbaone, O Still-heart, thou hast thy neck vertebrae and thy back, O Still-heart! Place thou thyself on thy base." They said base earlier. Is base your core, your trunk?
iON 11:31
Well, it's the condition. It's the condition. What are you based on? Are you based in this world or in the underworld? What's your base? Home base.
Carolyn 11:41
Wow. Cool. Continuing" "I put water beneath thee, and I (Carolyn: now waters, is that Living Water, iON?
iON 11:52
It would be 'cuz they don't, they don't get ice water in hell, Carolyn.
Carolyn 11:57
Yeah, True. True. Heh heh. Okay -
Bob 12:02
And Living Water is not water. Another reason it could be air.
iON 12:06
Basically. Correct.
Carolyn 12:10
Is not water? (Bob laughs in background) Is it wet? Is it wet, Bob? Is it wet? Is it wet?
Bob 12:18
No. Have you ever noticed the water we get is wet? By the way, -
Carolyn 12:25
No.
Bob 12:27
What?
Carolyn 12:28
Stop.
Bob 12:29
Box two. Box two has come, Carolyn.
Carolyn 12:32
Continuing.
Bob 12:33
Box two.
Carolyn 12:34
Ahh, box two. Continuing -
iON 12:38
Yay. It's about time.
Carolyn 12:40
Yeah, they'll only deliver one big box per day to us, so they hold -
iON 12:46
That damn, that damn Jimmy. That damn Jimmy.
Carolyn 12:51
I know! Yeah. So, put it in the freezer, Bob. It's been out in the, in the heat for days.
Bob 12:57
Okay.
Carolyn 12:58
Continuing: "and I bring unto thee a Tet of gold that thou mayest to rejoice therein." And then they come to a "RUBRIC (From the Papyrus of Nu)" that I shall read which tells you how to read this chapter. And they say: "[This Chapter] shall be recited over a Tet of gold (Carolyn: which is RNA drops) set in a stand made of sycamore wood (Carolyn: now sycamores, that was big in what movie, Bob? The sycamores?)
Bob 13:28
"Twin Peaks."
Carolyn 13:29
Yes.
Bob 13:32
Sycamore tree. That was a portal.
Carolyn 13:35
Yeah. Is this sycamore wood likened unto a portal, iON?
iON 13:42
Yes, the oil of it is. Remember the tree that the old Number One walked through?
Carolyn 13:53
Yes, I do.
iON 13:54
That was a sycamore tree.
Carolyn 13:56
Awe, wow. Okay, yeah.
iON 14:01
We should go get him back. We could go get him back.
Carolyn 14:04
He's doing great. He'll come back. He'll be back.
Bob 14:07
Who?
Carolyn 14:08
Never mind.
Bob 14:09
Who, iON?
Carolyn 14:10
Mute yourself.
Bob 14:11
Who, iON, Who is she talking about?
Carolyn 14:13
Continuing.
iON 14:14
Elvis Cornflower.
Carolyn 14:15
"which hath been steeped in a tincture of ankhamu flowers, (Carolyn: a-n-k-h-a-m-u flowers. I haven't heard of those. So I'm gonna look them up)
iON 14:29
Okay, stop right there. Stop right there. Then look it up. Then she said that. And how would they steep a tincture of a flower? This is key.
Carolyn 14:44
Yeah, it's like a -
iON 14:45
We smell a formula.
Carolyn 14:47
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. They're processing a process. Ankhamu. Now they're calling it a hanukkah flower, or there's an Anuhea flower. Rrrrr.
Bob 15:04
I'm laughing, Carolyn. I'm reading what Trump's sister says about him. Ha ha ha. She -
Carolyn 15:11
No, I can't - Bob, you're interrupting right in the middle of -
Bob 15:15
I'm speaking of the dead. Yep.
Carolyn 15:19
Ha ha ha. Tthere's an Ankhamu flower, -
Bob 15:24
Kamala?
Carolyn 15:25
- A-m-k-h-a-m-u
Bob 15:26
Kamala (indistinct)
Carolyn 15:27
Shoosh. You mute yourself or I'll make you read this.
Bob 15:31
You're gonna have to hurry up and finish this. I can't take this much longer.
Carolyn 15:35
Ha ha ha. Okay, Book of the Dead. They all - the reference I find for that spelling just brings me back to the Book of the Dead, iON. So, go ahead and spill your guts.
iON 15:49
Nuh ah. No, we'll save it for a nice Thursday.
Carolyn 15:54
Yes, okay. So will we stop since Bob's going to be a b-i-t-c-h?
iON 16:00
No no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Oh, my gosh, you got their, you got their T-T hard, Carolyn. You gotta - you can't leave him all high and dry now. They'll kill themselves. You got to get him off the ledge. That's not nice.
Carolyn 16:13
Okay. Okay, so let's go to this. Okay: "[This Chapter] shall be recited over a Tet of gold set in a stand made of sycamore wood which hath been steeped in a tincture of ankhamu flowers,
iON 16:35
Okay, wait now. Now, now wait. The stand has been steeped in an alcohol tincture of ankhamu flowers. So they took ankhamu flowers, whatever that is, and put it in alcohol and then poured that and soaked or reconstituted or macerate it into a sycamore wood vessel, which was holding the drops, ReBob.
Carolyn 17:07
Correct.
iON 17:08
Is that what you're tryin' to say?
Carolyn 17:10
Yeah, yeah.
iON 17:11
Okay, good. Okay, and then when you, when, when you got dead people, and there's a funeral which Bob don't go to, you put it on the neck of the dead on the day of the funeral. That's not over there, that's right here.
Carolyn 17:28
Ah ha.
iON 17:29
Go ahead.
Carolyn 17:30
Got it. Okay, can't wait to do that. As iON said -
iON 17:37
You need some dead people? You need some dead people, Carolyn? We can help.
Carolyn 17:40
Ha ha. I know you can. You are. Continuing: "and it shall be placed on the neck of the deceased on the day of the funeral. If this amulet be placed on his neck he shall become a perfect Khu in Khert-Neter, and at the festivals of the New Year he shall be like unto the Followers of Osiris continually and for ever." So there. There's your little, hmm, what's it called? A ritual. A ritual.
iON 18:15
A clue. A clue.
Carolyn 18:18
Ha ha. A clue. I love clues. "RUBRIC (From the Turin Papyrus): [This Chapter] shall be said over a Tet of gold fashioned out of the trunk of a sycamore tree, and it should be placed on the neck of the deceased. Then shall he enter in through the doors of the Tuat. His words whall be silenced." The whall is w-h-a-l-l, be silenced.
iON 18:47
So it's kina like - it sounds like - it's kind of like shall and will.
Carolyn 18:53
Ah, it is indeed. Yep, it is indeed. Continuing: "He shall place himself on the ground on New Year's Day among the Followers of Osiris." Now, this New Year's Day, is that new years in terms of this person's new year?
iON 19:15
No. No.
Carolyn 19:17
What, what is it?
iON 19:20
It's a marker. You'll see.
Carolyn 19:22
Okay, a marker. Continuing: "If this Chapter be known by the deceased he shall live like a perfect Khu in Khert-Neter. He shall not be sent back from the doors of Amentet. There shall be given to him the shens cake, and a cup of wine, and the persen cake, (Carolyn: p-e-r-s-e-n) and slices of meat on the altars of Ra, or as some read, Osiris Un-Nefer. And his word shall be truth before his enemies in Khert-Neter continually, and for ever and for ever." That's pretty eternal.
iON 20:07
Now, now, you know, the first rubric was from the Papyrus of Nu. And the second rubric was from the Turin Papyrus. So, they're two of the same clues done for different - said by different folks.
Carolyn 20:23
Ah ha. Got it.
iON 20:25
So, they're similar, but not exactly; one has more details, but then the other has more of the completion. What do you do once you get them back alive? What do they eat? What do they drink? How does this work?
Carolyn 20:38
So is that -
iON 20:39
One is more pervasive than the first one. And the other, the latter, is more pervasive in after you get them back alive.
Carolyn 20:47
Mm hmm. And is that two different groups of people translating?
iON 20:56
Yes, different Papyruses recorded it differently. Like, Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John all describe the same event, but it sounded like they couldn't be at the same place the way they described it.
Carolyn 21:11
Yeah. Very good. Makes it fluid, more fluid. Continuing: "THE CHAPTER OF A TET OF CARNELIAN."
iON 21:26
Carnelian. Carnelian. The stone. People tote them in their pockets. Bring you money.
Carolyn 21:36
Right. Now, before it was Tet of Gold and now it's Tet of Carnelian. Is this still RNA?
iON 21:44
No, this would be ReMag.
Carolyn 21:48
Ha ha ha ha. Hi, ReMag. Okay, continuing: "The Osiris Ani, whose word is truth, saith:-The blood of Isis, (Carolyn: now, isn't carnelian red?)
iON 22:02
No, it's like an amberish. It's like a golden amberish color. It looks like the stuff when they ambered things in "Fringe." It's like an Imperial Topaz color. A goldish brown, bronzy.
Carolyn 22:21
Is that the blood color though? What I'm trying to get at -
iON 22:25
No, no.
Carolyn 22:27
Not the blood. Okay, got it. Continuing: "the spells of Isis, the magical powers of Isis, (Carolyn: Okay, iON, when ISIS the terrorist group took the name ISIS, were they stealing it from all the - from the Egyptian Book of the Dead in a very -
iON 22:46
No, it's an acronym for the Islamic group. It's just like, -
Carolyn 22:52
Yeah.
iON 22:52
- like Antifa. That's what that's not either. It's just an acronym for what they are.
Carolyn 22:59
Got it. Thank you. Perfect. And continuing. So just to go back: "The blood of Isis, the spells of Isis, the magical powers of Isis, shall make this great one strong, and shall be an amulet of protection [against him] that would do to him the things which he abominateth." Okay, now why, why that would do that? So, he gets an amulet of protection against things that would abominate him that's what they're trying to say, iON?
iON 23:44
Yeah. That's what ReMag, that's what ReMag does.
Carolyn 23:47
Ohhh, yeah.
iON 23:50
It doesn't kill you, it keeps you from gettin' sick.
Carolyn 23:54
Yeah.
Bob 23:56
What words refer to ReMag?
iON 23:57
That's the reason we liked it.
Carolyn 23:59
The carnelian.
iON 23:59
Carnelian.
Carolyn 24:01
The Tet of Carnelian instead of Tet of Gold.
iON 24:03
Tet of Carnelian.
Bob 24:05
Now what is carnelian?
Carolyn 24:06
It's a stone.
iON 24:09
ReMag. It's ReMag.
Bob 24:11
It's a mineral.
Carolyn 24:12
Yeah.
iON 24:14
It is.
Carolyn 24:16
Okay, Bob? Bob says yep. And then we come to -
iON 24:22
Are you given the secret away? Is that how you rip magnesium, is with carnelian? Damn. We didn't know that.
Carolyn 24:27
Heh heh. Neither did we. And then we say a -
iON 24:32
That' s hooten toot, isn't it?
Carolyn 24:33
- "APPENDIX" and then it says "RUBRIC" And this is "(From the Papyrus of Nu): [This Chapter
iON 24:41
Now wait, now. No, wait, wait, wait, wait. This is the Nu, so this is the first one. Remember? The one that -
Carolyn 24:50
Yeah. Got it.
iON 24:50
- was more detailed. Listen. That was more detailed in the beginning of it. 'Cuz we're gonna do this again. So, go ahead.
Carolyn 24:56
Ah ha. Then we'll probably go to the Papyrus of Turin which will be not so much detail, but in the end -
iON 25:06
Well, no, it's Saite Recension. It's Saite Recension.
Carolyn 25:11
Missed that. What?
iON 25:13
The next one comes from the Saite Recension.
Carolyn 25:17
Oh, it different. Okay fine. Okay, Bob, can we continue?
iON 25:22
Please. Don't ask him. He don't care.
Carolyn 25:26
"[This Chapter] shall be said over a Tet of carnelian, which hath been washed in a tincture of ankhamu flowers, and
iON 25:37
Ohhh, so now, hold my girdle, Myrdle. Just a minute. Yeah. So, you have ReMag is washed, has been washing in a tincture of them same flowers that was before dealt with on a sycamore tree. Ah huh. And "fashioned out of the trunk of a sycamore tree." This is different. Now you're taking, you're taking the Tet of Gold and the Tet of Carnelian and you bringin' them together. Aren't you?
Carolyn 26:18
Mmm. Looks like. Yeah, yeah. Got it. Let's see what other exciting things we find. Okay, is fashioned out of the trunk of this. Okay, save the whole darn thing. "[This Chapter] shall be said over a Tet of carnelian, which hath been washed in a tincture of ankhamu flowers, and is fashioned out of the trunk of a sycamore tree." What is fashioned? The water in the tincture?
iON 26:52
The container. The container.
Carolyn 26:57
It said it - does it differently, doesn't it, than it did before.
iON 27:01
Well, it does but see, it's opposite. Before they took and swashed the sycamore tree. Now they swashed the ReMag in the trunk of the sycamore tree. So, you have a second part.
Carolyn 27:15
Right. See, the words before were, "[This Chapter] shall be recited over a Tet of gold set in a stand made of sycamore wood."
iON 27:26
Right.
Carolyn 27:27
So they made it clear it was some sort of structure, sycamore structure.
iON 27:34
And this is not. This is more like a coaster that you put on the neck of the dead people.
Carolyn 27:41
Oh, right. 'Cuz then the next sycamore tree was something - the carnelian washed in a tincture of the flowers fashioned out of the trunk of a sycamore tree. Same flowers but fashioned and that's the togetherness and now it's set over a Tet of carnelian anointed with a tincture of ankhamu flowers made from the trunk of the sycamore tree. Maybe they think we'll realize it's a bit of furniture, who knows. But continuing: "It shall be placed on the neck of the Khu. If this book be done for him, the magical spells of Isis shall protect him,
iON 28:30
You jumped. You jumped, darlin'. Go back up one.
Carolyn 28:35
Sorry. Yes, 'cuz they're all the same to me. Okay, rewind. Okay. All that about fashioned out of the trunk of a sycamore tree. "It should be placed on the neck of the deceased on the day of the funeral. If this be done for him the magical powers of Isis will protect his members. Horus, the son of Isis, shall rejoice when he seeth him. [No] road shall be blocked to him. His hand shall be to heaven, his hand shall be to earth, for ever. Do not let anyone see him Verily, dot dot dot." And then there's a "RUBRIC." And the part I had jumped to. And this says, iON said earlier: (From the Saite Recension): [This Chapter] shall be said over a Tet of carnelian, anointed with a tincture of ankhamu flowers, made from the trunk of a sycamore tree. It shall be placed on the neck of the Khu. If this book be done for him, the magical spells of Isis shall protect him, and Horus the son of Isis shall rejoice [when] he seeth him. No road shall be blocked to him. His hand shall be to heaven, his hand shall be to earth......." So that, that's someone in the in-between, iON?
iON 30:05
It would be 'cuz that's what you're trying to reach to, 'cuz they're still here but they're dead. But they're not there yet.
Carolyn 30:12
Yeah, not there yet. Right, thank you. Continuing: "If this book be known by him he shall be in the following of Osiris Un-Nefer, and his word shall be truth in Khert-Neter. The doors of Khert-Neter shall be opened to him. Wheat and barley shall be given to him in Sekhet-Aanru."
iON 30:40
Aanru. Aanru. wrote
Carolyn 30:45
Aanru. A-a-n-r-u.
iON 30:47
Like Aaron with an "n." Aaron with an "n." Aanru.
Carolyn 30:52
"His name shall be like [the names of] the gods who are there, the Followers of Horus who reap." So, that's the end of that chapter it seems. Where we at, iON?
iON 31:05
Well, the wheat and the barley are what you end up making for Bread of Life.
Carolyn 31:11
Ahh, ha ha ha. That's right. What Bob?
iON 31:16
It's startin' to, you're startin' to pull it - they're giving little dots. They're puttin' little dots, a little dot here, a little dot there. Dot Fhlosten Paradise.
Carolyn 31:28
This two sentences above?
iON 31:29
Somebody should look up where the - somebody should look up, look up where that actually is.
Carolyn 31:35
Where what actually is?
iON 31:39
Fhlosten. Fhlosten Paradise is.
Carolyn 31:41
Okay. From "The Fifth Element," okay. Yeah, I'll have to watch that.
iON 31:47
No, and that's where it's from, but where is it geographically?
Carolyn 31:51
Oh, geographically. Bob, you're muted, and it's a very annoying.
Bob 31:57
Seems to be - I just happen to see that and a couple of quick videos. Seems to be floating someplace like Shambala in Sheila's painting. Or the mountain. Is that right, iON? Kind of floating someplace?
iON 32:12
Actually, it's in Andromeda.
Bob 32:15
Ah, okay.
Carolyn 32:16
Wow.
iON 32:17
But don't tell anybody. And damn you, don't you tell anybody. We're stick of you (inaudible) that shit.
Bob 32:23
I'm not! Yeah, where's the Bread of Life, Carolyn? Where was that word?
Carolyn 32:26
Three sentences above.
iON 32:28
It's in the freezer! In the freezer!
Carolyn 32:31
Did you put it in the freezer?
Bob 32:33
Not yet.
Carolyn 32:33
Wheat and barley shall be given to him.
Bob 32:36
Oh, yeah. Rubric. It's in the rubric.
Carolyn 32:39
I got hung up on the stupid -
Bob 32:41
Word.
Carolyn 32:42
- pronunciation.
Bob 32:42
Sekhet-Aanru. I'm very good at that. I don't stumble.
Carolyn 32:46
So what you should do, Bob, is follow me and I'll stop at the -
Bob 32:50
I can't follow this stuff.
Carolyn 32:51
I know! You fall asleep.
Bob 32:54
Your reading is so clumsy I just can't - I'd be interrupting all the time. Heh heh heh. (iON laughs).
Carolyn 33:02
The next dead book, Bob's gonna be reading it, iON. The Tibetan Book of the Dead all by Bob.
iON 33:09
That's right.
Carolyn 33:10
Continuing: "THE CHAPTER OF A HEART OF SEHERT STONE."
Bob 33:16
It's not sure as in "s-h," it's "s-e," Sehert Stone. You go, "surehurt." You are dyslexic in a little way.
iON 33:26
Sehert. And it's sehert.
Bob 33:28
Yeah, well, that's your version. You know you're better, but she goes shehert. No, it sehert.
Carolyn 33:33
I jumped to the "h" and pronounce that before the "e."
Bob 33:37
You maybe block out vowels in some way. Maybe you have something against vowels which created visual space, but you're an oral person.
iON 33:44
You're, you're, you're a, you're a vowel bigot. You're a vowel bigot.
Bob 33:49
A vial cricket. It's a big offense.
iON 33:51
Damn. Vowels, vowels matter too, Carolyn vowels matter too! (Carolyn laughs)
Bob 33:56
The water's, the waters shining. The sunshine the water long before the - what is that - what do you call it when the sun goes down? Carolyn can't read, I can't name.
iON 34:07
Night?
Bob 34:07
I don't know what things are called.
Carolyn 34:08
Nature.
Bob 34:09
Dawn or something
Carolyn 34:10
Dusk.
iON 34:10
It's called night.
Bob 34:10
Dusk. Yeah, the dusk.
iON 34:12
It's called night.
Bob 34:13
It's shining before the dusk.
Carolyn 34:15
Before the night. I survived night. (all three laugh)
Bob 34:32
I forgot the basics.
iON 34:32
Yeah, yeah. He can pronounce it, he just doesn't know what it is. Carolyn, he can pronounce it, he just doesn't know what it is.
Carolyn 34:32
Okay, "THE CHAPTER OF A HEART OF SEHERT STONE." No, I said wrong again. Ha ha (Bob laughs in background)
iON 34:42
You're okay. Go ahead with it. They won't care. It won't matter (overtalk).
Carolyn 34:45
No, they don't care. Poor hearers of this. "The Osiris Ani, whose word is truth, saith:- I am the Benu bird, the Heart-soul of Ra,
Bob 34:56
Benu! See, that's why I can't follow this. I'd be correcting every third word.
Carolyn 35:03
(Carolyn and iON laugh) The grammarian! Bob the grammarian. I think there's a slight impatience in Carolyn. That is it. But Carolyn's impatient.
iON 35:11
Go back and laugh, go back and laugh, go back to Revelations two, Carolyn. Remind him of what he sounded like then. That's when you (indistinct). He knows something. The problem with him
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