iON | What Will Cause a Constitutional Convention

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28 November 2020

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Scott 0:01
About the Trump thing, I gather there's a judge named McCullough who made a ruling around midnight last night that she wasn't, she wasn't going to authenticate the certification of Pennsylvania.

iON 0:35
Right.

Scott 0:21
And that there was a misunderstanding about that. And she also feels that, that if the case goes to the Supreme Court, that Trump will win. And that sort of upset the applecart for a lot of people.

iON 0:35
Well, she should not have done that. She should not have done that. What they have to -- they have to keep losing. If they win too much, it'll never get to the Supreme Court. Do you understand? Now granted, the Supreme Court has to agree to take the case, and they have not yet. Okay. But if they win these cases on this, like with Georgia, it's a good example. If they prove the point, make the point and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, and do all this greatness, then it's solved, it's settled, and it doesn't go to the Supreme Court. It still doesn't give Trump enough electoral college delegates. But what you don't know, now Scott, please do this one favor. If Bob puts this on his facial book, get on the thing. You know how, you know how you get on the, you know how you get on the thing and argue with Bob and tell him how ridiculous he is and that kinda stuff?

Scott 0:35
Ah huh.

iON 0:41
Be sure you do that with this one. Be, be the antiphonal choir 'cause see, what if --check this out. If you really want to cause -- not a Supreme Court issue, because remember, we already said how this goes several times, several ways. It's like the Seven Wonders. If you live to see the Seven Wonders. This will be one of them Seven Wonders. You can't just go to the Supreme Court and win if the three branches of the government just as we laid out in Revelation gonna eat themselves. Now that y'all see back then the European Union was ridin' high and we said ah, forget that, that's gone. Now you understand there ain't no European Union, they through. They're sucking hind tit; it's not good. Okay, good. So now what happened when these three branches devour themselves, that's fine. But that doesn't cause a Constitutional Convention. What would cause a Constitutional Convention is if the Republican governors of the United States of America had seated electoral college delegates, and they voted for Trump anyway. 'Cause that's just-- hey, that's just a gentleman, that's a gentleman's handshake. They ain't gotta vote for shit now. They're not bound to that popular vote. Ask Hill, ask Hillary Rotten Clinton. She had her Dominion machines working hard, and she beat the hell out everybody on that popular vote. But it still didn't get her an electoral college win. They don't have to vote that way.

Scott 1:43
Those are called faithless electors.

iON 3:10
Very good. And they don't have to vote that way. And he can actually win it that way, but that would cause such a stir. All them truckloads of Molotov cocktails and signs and rocks and bottles and, and double-barrel butcher knives and tear gas, all that supplies, it's already been placed all around the country to break out for the war. That'd be a waste if they didn't do that from the people that was having a fit. Not to mention Joy Behar would probably cut her damn head off. [laughs] And Whoopi Goldberg's gonna had two miscarriages, two miscarriages over this already. It's pretty bad. Poor Whoopi, we're so sorry for her. Anyhow, it's gonna cause a huge problem. And the huge problem now becomes a constitutional issue, you see. That's the point, the issue. If you have a constitutional issue, that can seat pretty quickly, especially if you're a Yellow Dog Democrat, a Constitutional Convention. But that's big stuff, now. There ain't been but a couple of them all the way through this here. Y'all know that, right? They don't have them every week.

Scott 4:28
I don't, I don't think there's, I don't think there's ever been more than one.

iON 4:33
Correct. No, no. The first one was the one that seated the Constitution was the Convention, and then they had one since then. That's correct. You're very good. See how smart you are? You're so nice.

Scott 4:47
I was under the impression that the governors can't appoint electors, that they have to be appointed by the, by the state legislature.

iON 4:57
That's fine. That's -- either way, but the governor controls that capacity. They make a decision as far as approving or disapproving, approving or disapproving. But that's not the point. The point is that they can still control it. But they're not important for anything except for the actual Constitutional Convention itself. That's when they'll become when they say that the United States are, again. Remember, they used to say that.

Bob 5:25
iON, you say they're important for -- you're saying they're important for the coming Convention, the electoral situation.

iON 5:25
Yes.

Scott 5:25
Well, yeah, I gathered that in, in Pennsylvania, for instance, the legislature ceded the decision way back in the 1930s to the governor, but they can rescind that, that session by a vote of the legislature and grab it back because according to the Constitution itself, the decision ultimately lies with the legislature, not with the governors.

iON 6:07
Which is the war that is the very war that causes the Constitutional Convention. See, you're right. You're, you're, you're placing your -- your abstract is exactly proper. It's what causes the question that causes this outcome. 'Cause people listen to us and they say, "iON you lost your goddamn mind!. These people ain't gonna do that! The Democrats gonna poke a little bit, they gonna put Beijing Biden in there. And then they're gonna put the, put the Republican Senate, which is what Beijing Biden would really, really, really want. Because he's gonna be serving in his official capacity as the Office of the President Elect. He's gonna be the President, [chuckles] he's gonna be the Office of the President Elect. Look at his sign, the little thing. The Office, 46. The Office of the President Elect. So, he can do it that way, but he wants the Republicans to have the Senate so, "I'm gonna give everything free. Money free." "No, you're not!" "Oh, well, they said no. Well, I tried, I tried. I'm tearin' down, I'm gonna burn my own house down so the Green New Deal can start. Yeah, I'm gonna built me a new house first. I'm gonna burn my house down." Oh, wait, what about the carbon? "Oh, goddamn. God, carbon. We can't burn the -- we gotta tear them to -- ninety trillion dollars to tear down every building in the United States of America and put little, bitty windows." See, that's the thing. Bob closes the windows all the time. If he had little, bitty windows, he wouldn't have to open and close 'em. They'd be -- see, if he had little, bitty windows, that'd be the case. So, it's just a real thoughtful way to save the planet. That's what it really is. But we won't have any way to do this because it becomes a barrier, a barrier. Barrier, it's kinda like a bay.

Bob 7:54
The Republicans said it becomes a barrier.

iON 7:58
Yes. Correct.

Scott 8:02
Well, as I recall, there's something like a -- in order to call a Constitutional Convention, two-thirds of the states have to agree to it. And that the purpose of the Convention is to establish the Democrat rules. The Democrats don't control even a majority of states. The majority is

iON 8:29
No, no, no, no, no. No, no, no, no, no, no. You got it exactly backwards. That's exactly -- the words are sound but it's exactly backwards. The Democrats are gonna be hootin' about it. And so the Republicans are gonna say all right, we got enough governors. The whole war this all the way through it's been about building Republican governors. You now for the first time have enough governors to rule and open a Constitutional Convention. Never happened before ever, ever, ever.

Scott 8:59
It isn't ultimately the governors that choose whether to participate in a Constitutional Convention, it's the state legislatures. So do we control two-thirds of the state legislatures? That's the question.

iON 8:59
Not yet. Not yet. But what you're gonna find is it's you have to have the governors to seat a Constitutional Convention. If you don't have three-quarters, you'll never seat one. That's the rub.

Scott 9:28
Okay. So, it's three-quarters it's not two-thirds. Three-quarters.

iON 9:34
Three-quarters that's exactly correct. And that's, then that's what you are right on your, your, your verbiage was correct, but the argument was not founded. That's all we were saying, is that the rub comes from how you get there, not what's said when you get there. Good.

Bob 9:51
The rub is what the issues are gonna be is how you get there.

iON 9:57
'Cause what the rub is -- yes, that's correct. And that's because it's not just a having one 'cause you can have a Constitutional Convention tomorrow and lose. What the fuck good is that? If you're gonna do it, win. So, this is how you do it and win.

Bob 10:12
And what do you do? Just to repeat it or we may not have gotten it, what do you do to win?

iON 10:20
You have to have everybody agree to abolish income taxes and abolish, go back to a feudal -- only landowners get a vote. And it would clean that mess up. And we're gonna -- no smokin' in the boys' room. No more smokin' in the boys' room.

Bob 10:41
Jesus Christ.

iON 10:42
No more smokin' in the boy's room anymore.

Bob 10:43
And the women go back to the kitchen. And the women go back into the kitchen, right?

Carolyn 10:50
(in background) I'm in the kitchen!

Bob 10:51
Yeah, Carolyn's in the kitchen right now.

iON 10:49
Carolyn's in the kitchen right now. It's pizza night.

Bob 10:54
Are you saying you have to raise the income tax issue to win?

iON 10:59
No, that's just one of the things that's gonna be adjudicated.

Bob 11:02
Right. You didn't answer the question. What, what is the thing that has to be done to win?

Scott 11:11
Three-fourth of legislatures have to vote to hold a Convention.

iON 11:15
Right.

Bob 11:15
What was the number?

iON 11:16
And they will.

Bob 11:17
Three-quarters or two-thirds?

Scott 11:18
Three-fourths.

Bob 11:19
Three-fourths. And how many governors have to be involved?

Scott 11:24
Well, the governor's seat the, seat the delegates, so they have to be involved too. They have a say in whether or not

Bob 11:33
They seat, you mean they pick the delegates?

Scott 11:36
I guess. Yeah.

Bob 11:38
Yeah. So, iON, you're saying you said the governors are important. Is Scott's point about what the governors do seating delegates, you would agree with Scott saying that?

iON 11:49
Yeah, that's okay. We don't have these, we don't have these every day. We don't have these every day, so it's kinda like, kinda like arguing the Logan Act.

Bob 11:49
I know but you're saying that governors are important. The governors are important. Yeah, Scott's stating

iON 12:01
You don't have the

Bob 12:01
Yes, the governors stating -- Yes, the governors

iON 12:06
Okay, stop speaking. If you're gonna say some'um, let us finish. It's called communication; it's so wonderful. We're gonna try it, Bob. We don't know if it's gonna go good or not. But the point is

Bob 12:16
You're not very good at it.

iON 12:17
Yes.

Bob 12:17
[chuckles] That stopped you. Okay, look, the issue is you had said stuff about the governors all along here. Now you're saying the governors are important. Is Scott naming the one function they're important on or is there some other things?

iON 12:37
That is an important option.

Bob 12:39
What did he say? It sounded like you said that isn't an important unction.

Scott 12:44
No, he said that is.

Bob 12:47
Is there some other point? Let's get really into it. Is there other things that governors do that'll be a part of getting there?

iON 12:53
No. No, that doesn't matter. None of that matters. The only reason to have it is that we can set a feudal system. You gotta have a (overtalk/indistinct)

Bob 13:01
Why do we want to do that? Why does that have to be done, a feudal system?

iON 13:05
'Cause that's the way -- 'cause that's the way it's gonna go. You can't -- all the, all the people, all the voters are gonna be dead, Bob. [Bob chuckles] You're either gonna be -- Gods don't vote. Gods don't vote. God don't give a fuck. God's gonna do what God do. God's not gonna ask you. God don't wake up and ask you what to do. You ask God, God don't ask you. [Bob chuckles] EXCEPT for, except for that ONE time with Hosea and Gomer.

Bob 13:07
Oh, yeah.

iON 13:09
The only time it's occurred.

Bob 13:33
Yes. Okay, you're saying

iON 13:33
The only time. They've made, they've cast lots; they've done that before. But that's the first time. See, God don't ask you, God don't care.

Bob 13:42
Okay, so the -- iON, the Constitutional Convention is gonna be made up of people who survived the plague.

iON 13:47
Ah, now, they, they've -- no, dead people have been votin' for years, Bob. They'll let the, they'll let the dead be involved in this too. Might as well, they're all busy. They've been votin' in Chicago's elections for years.

Bob 14:00
Yeah, but you said, you just implied that the Gods are gonna be in charge of this, and they want a feudal system.

iON 14:06
Oh, wait. No, we were -- we were at you because you were saying why do we want a feudal system? Why do we need this? Why? Because all the people that would matter to say, no, no, no, I want it this way, no, no, no, I want this, are gonna be dead. So, it doesn't matter what they want, they're gonna be dead. It doesn't matter.

Bob 14:06
But they'll be dead, but you said dead people will be involved. The recently dead will not be involved.

iON 14:14
Can be. Can be, yeah. But they won't have a say, just like changing the vote. See, dead people get a vote now, but they're not gonna get a vote after that because the feudal system works so much better. It's a caste system, Bob. You gotta know your space.

Bob 14:44
Okay, so if, if there were no dead people from the plague, they would be living and they would protest the terms of going through. Correct? Americans wouldn't want that.

iON 14:54
Correct. They don't know.

Bob 14:56
Right, but the population -- this is important, Scott.

iON 14:58
They're listenin', they're listenin' to CNN. They're listenin' to CNN now and they're tryin' to put socialism now and they're tryin' to say Mussolini had a really clean sphincter. And you know, what are you gonna do?

Bob 15:11
Scott, there's gonna be -- there's a lot about the plague on the private session, which would be a supplement to what you're transcribing. You know, last week's they called it the Bible schedule. And then the details of the particulars right now that you're getting the general

iON 15:27
What do we want? Apartheid. When do we want it? Now. [chuckles] What do we want? Apartheid. When do we want it? Now.

Bob 15:37
Yes. Back to the issues there. So, is it possible that the Constitution Convention may not happen till 2022, or do you see it happening sooner definitely?

iON 15:51
We don't know. We don't know 'cause y'all got some things so fucked up. You don't even -- the people are dying now. Before, you lived through the Coronavirus, and now everybody's out butt fucking again. [Bob laughs] And there's strippers in church. We've always had whores in church, but now we got strippers in church, and people are praying in the liquor store. [Bob laughs] They're takin' their bible to the strip club and they're prayin' at the liquor store. It don't make no sense. It just don't make no sense. So everything is so sidewindingly obscure and protracted, it's actually, actually a little bit hard to tell presently. So, the answer is, the answer is we don't know. It'll come out wash day.

Bob 15:51
Yeah, you talked about that in the private session how that is today. But

iON 16:41
Well, it wasn't that way until -- we never had problems [audio corrupted] till just now y'all keep fucking things up. You get paradise and you kiss it good-bye.

Bob 16:50
Yeah. Now you, you in passing said last week or so we might have two Presidents. Will that be part of the confusion?

iON 17:02
Well, you have the Office of the President Elect and then the President. Yeah, that'd be all right.

Bob 17:08
That would be how it happened. He wouldn't, he wouldn't get past the Office of President Elect; he'd be that. [chuckles]

iON 17:15
So far. Well, we said there wasn't a reality where we saw Beijing Biden as President. But now you sit here and have a conversation you go well, that's ridiculous, that gotta be. It's like no they're not, yes there is. No, they're not. But we don't know. Yes, you're right. We don't know, we don't. And so it's up and down like a window shade so even if you had it, America ain't gonna accept it. And even if it don't happen, the other half is gonna say oh, hell no, hell no, hell no. We're gonna fight. We're gonna beef. And now everybody's slingin' double-barrel butcher knives again. I mean, see what I'm sayin'? Either way, it's a fool's errand.

Bob 17:50
Okay, now someone brought up the other day or Scott Adams did, I think, that the Supreme Court once they have to deal with these problems, they will be very bland about it because they won't want to trigger a civil war. And so they'll say, what? They'll let Biden be President, Carolyn?

Carolyn 18:08
(in background) Yeah.

Bob 18:09
Scott Adams predicts that Biden will be President so it will be nice and mild. But you've said that there's gonna be rebellion from both sides depending on your

iON 18:19
Well, that'd be an excuse. That would be a perfect excuse to have the legislative branch which is what Trump's talkin' to now, the legislative branch, talk to them to say, Aha! Here's the problem. Aha. Here's the rub. And the legislators can then pass rules of engagement to cause Reagan to be President again. [Bob and iON laugh] Well, fuck! We're gonna have Janet Yellen back. Then everybody says why can't you have Reagan too? We can make him Vice-vice President.

Bob 18:57
Now you did say months ago that the Supreme Court when it got to the Supreme Court, they wouldn't be able to make a decision. That's what you've just given the details of, -

iON 19:05
Don't tell nobody. If this gets out,

Bob 19:05
- how the legislature's will step in and propose -- listen! And propose a Constitutional Convention. Is that what you're saying?

iON 19:13
We don't want to say nothin' because it's gonna end up on the goddamn facial book, and so we don't want to say nothin! But we'll yield that one.

Bob 19:20
[chuckles] You don't trust me. People, iON does not trust Bob. But Bob is very trustworthy. If you say don't put it on, I don't put it out there. Meanwhile, we're saying it right here on the show for frick sake.

iON 19:31
Well, there ain't but seven people here and they're not even drunk yet.

Bob 19:34
Yeah, it doesn't matter here.

iON 19:35
It don't matter here, it's all good here. It's all good here. But Scott's gonna come at you vehemently. He's gonna become our best asset because he's gonna keep you in check. [Bob chuckles] That's what he's gonna do. He's gonna be the antiphonal choir to straighten out this bullshit.

Bob 19:51
[laughs] The antiphonal. What does that mean? Opposite? Oppositional? Antiphonal. Anti-phony? Anybody know what antiphonal means? Where are you, Scott? Did you disappear, Scott?

iON 20:09
If you have a corral, and you have the, the antiphonal part would be the part from the other side of the room so that it blends. Or if you have a pipe organ, it doesn't come out like a water hose. It fills the room. The horns on the other side of the cathedral would be the antiphonal horns that blow back to make the sound come at you from a different direction.

Bob 20:10
Okay, so

Scott 20:11
So, it's like treble versus base, right?

Bob 20:38
Treble versus what?

Scott 20:40
Treble versus base.

Carolyn 20:43
(in background) Musical terms, Bob.

Bob 20:44
Yeah, yeah, is that what you're saying, iON? [pause] iON, keep the flow going.

iON 20:53
Oh, shit. What flow? You're talkin' about babel shit. You ain't said nothin' yet. Yeah, we said it, we just explained it. Now you have to explain the explain what we explained. Yeah, there's the flow. What we just said. [Bob laughs] Yeah, what we just said.

Scott 21:04
I think he's talking about, I think they're talking about like, like something that's discursive or, or dialectic. So there's, there's a major theme and then a minor theme and they trade places and they, they react and produce a synthesis. So, it's like Marxism or something. Right?

Bob 21:32
Gaileynism [?]

iON 21:33
[laughs] The next thing you know, he gonna bring in the goddamn Presbyterians. [laughs]

Bob 21:48
But iON, you agree with Scott that the antiphonal is dialectical?

iON 21:54
Yeah, he's not being an asshole tonight, so we agree with Scott. So that's good.

Bob 21:59
It doesn't matter what you say whether you're an asshole; it's how you say it not what you say. It's the McLuhan rule.

iON 22:03
How you say it. That's what we're fixin' to say. That, that's Andrew Crystall's rule isn't it, Bob?

Bob 22:09
Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Well, Scott. So, that's interesting. You got out the details of how we get to the Constitutional Convention. That's very good.

iON 22:18
Home run.

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