iON | Socio-Perception

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18 May 2019

Transcribed by Nan

Bob 0:00
So, why is iON -- many, Bert and the the real listeners are saying, boy iON's not holding back. He's telling everything. If that's true, why are you doing that?

iON 0:09
It's time! It's time! It's time enough to get on with it. Now it's time to get on with it. No more of this chit chat bick back let's go, let it go, let's go. Let's go! Time to come on! It's what this is about. It's what you're born for. If you don't come into it, come on right now. If you ain't, get ready, it isn't gonna be matter soon. It's time. There is no time, but the timing has arrived. The arrive is time 'cause the time can't stand. The sand, sand can't stand because the time won't survive! You only have the window, the window's only here. You can't get out because you don't know where you were anyway! You got to find a way.

Bob 0:44
Right. Now, okay, listen to this. This sounds like the wave and particle. You just brought up the issue. I tell people there is time. iON calls it timing, but it's a ratio of proportions. It's like there is matter and there's spirit.

iON 0:58
The distance between you and you.

Bob 0:59
So, how would you elaborate? How would you -- I've always wanted to get into that with you. There is time. There's no time in the big level, but there is a sense of timing and particularities. Is that the wave and the particle?

iON 1:12
We done told you once and we're gonna tell you again. We're gonna tell you and tell you till we tell you again until you hear it, till you hear it. We're gonna say God, where's your goddamn God.

Bob 1:22
So, I said to Carolyn last night, iON will say things and then later contradict because the spoken word can't go beyond contradiction 'cause there's two conversations. Do you agree with that statement?

iON 1:36
Now, well, no. I don't agree with the statement because it's more than that. If you have hendiadys, each one becomes four. It becomes a plethora of conversation in positions. You see? [airplane noise in background]

Bob 1:48
Yeah.

iON 1:48
It's not a problem because that's, that's the part that's waxing and waning anyway. So, it's no issue.

Bob 1:57
Right. Okay, so McLuhan used to

iON 1:57
And then you have perceptions. But then you have perceptions. Then if the airplane goes over and you hear it, if someone else doesn't hear it, does that validate or nullify the airplane's existence? No, it's just you weren't in the perception of receiving it.

Bob 2:12
Right.

iON 2:13
So, we said it, but just 'cause you didn't hear it doesn't mean it didn't occur. That's a whole nother rub, you see.

Bob 2:19
Yes.

iON 2:19
It's the, it's the pensive, the pensive quantitative understanding. Pensive quantitative understanding.

Bob 2:29
Right. Now, but you bring in that phrase socio-perception. Is that the world of the Android Meme and social mortar when you say socio-perception?

iON 2:36
Well, if you apply it there, it would, but see, that's going away. See, you keep burying your Bodies and then you keep digging them up, bringing 'em back. But you keep burying the Bodies, then you keep digging 'em up and bringing 'em back. If you'd leave them in the ground, you wouldn't have to deal with them anymore. But it's not the argument. It's not the fight. It's not the position that makes it right. You can't know who you are until you know where you've been. You know where you've been. You just forgot where you came from in your place of power. That's how you know who you were. If you can know who you were, the past pluperfect would make it just right because then you wouldn't know 'cause you'd be out of sight.

Bob 3:15
Right. So, you talked about we're retrieve -- we're obsolescing and retrieving. That's in the world of social mortar.

iON 3:23
Mortar as laid, not set. It's not set in stone. Your words are right. Mortar can be wet.

Bob 3:35
Okay.

iON 3:36
Mortar set in stone means that it's dried, cured and it's set. So, it is mortar, but it's not set in stone. There you go. Good words.

Bob 3:46
Right. And that's all that's left or that's gonna go, too?

iON 3:53
Well, we don't know. We're gonna have to see what you do with it.

Bob 3:55
Oh, okay.

iON 3:56
Where did they catch? Ah ah. Where did they catch? Where does it stop? At what point do you hear enough words that you ascend? Okay, it's that many words. At what point?

Bob 4:05
Right. And that's the question Worchester -- Worchester presented that to me in '93. He said in LA, he said we don't -- "Man was created by Rhyee, but we don't know how much of man will survive the post-Rhyee situation."

iON 4:20
But see, post-Rhyee is ascension. Post-Rhyee is what

Bob 4:24
Yes, that's what I mean, that we don't know.

iON 4:27
But he never acknowledged that there was such a thing.

Bob 4:30
Right. And he claimed he already was ascended.

iON 4:35
Well, funny. Funny. A funny thing happened on the way to the opera, didn't it, Bob? [laughs]

Bob 4:40
[chuckles] Yes.

iON 4:40
A funny thing happened.

Bob 4:43
Oh, okay. so, McLuhan used to

iON 4:46
We're not disputing, we're not disputing his, his borrowed power, but it cost him his life. The power that he wielded cost him his life.

Bob 4:56
Right.

iON 4:57
He went toe to toe with us on three different occasions. Toe to toe with us on three different occasions. It was not pretty, Bob.

Bob 5:04
Right. Did I ever go toe to toe with you?

iON 5:08
Never. Never, -

Bob 5:10
Okay.

iON 5:10
- never, never, never. But now, whoa, well, okay. Inference is not subjugated. Inference is not subjugated. If inference were subjugated, yes, you'd be stone cold dead. But inference is not because you hear it, and then you don't know. Then you didn't hear it. And you know it, then you didn't know it. Now, you obfuscate it, then you retrieve it. Then you bring it back in. Then you run through the quadrants. You run it through the different sections, the different capacities to apply it, and then you go, okay, okay. And it either works or it doesn't. And if it doesn't, it's media ecology. It's how media ecology applies. So, yeah, it's never toe to toe, where it's, it's the stance, the stodginess. His was I'll do you in.

Bob 5:16
That's right.

iON 5:34
That was his position. That was his position, and, and that's what happened to Vern.

Bob 6:06
Yes. I mean, Vern did, was the same stodginess.

iON 6:10
Yes.

Bob 6:11
Yeah. Okay, so McLuhan likes to quote what he called the doctrine of analogical proportionality in Thomas Aquinas' writings. When we say there's time within the ratios, no, we say there's timing in the no time situation. Is that what Aquinas was getting at when he created the, the doctrine of analogical proportionality?

iON 6:32
Trying to. Trying to.

Bob 6:34
Trying to.

iON 6:35
It was not correct. You know, it's not correct. It's not, not right. But it is a perspective. And it's open for enough, you can have a little conversation about it, but it won't hold water, Bob. It won't hold. I mean, if the Newtonian law went out, that shit ain't gonna last, so, yeah.

Bob 6:52
Right. So, and part of the problem is he's trying to write it out. You're doomed when you try to write it out.

iON 6:58
Well, that's, that's what McLuhan said.

Bob 7:01
Yes.

iON 7:02
Every time you write it, the, the Mechanical Bride gets ahold of it and it's all over with then. [Bob chuckles] The Gutenbergs will run you down.

Bob 7:11
Right. Okay,

iON 7:13
This is interesting, Bob. This is interesting. Oh, wait. No, wait. Hold one second.

Bob 7:27
Yeah.

iON 7:16
This is interesting, 'cause we've got you into a question that you didn't ask. So, if we're gonna have a question that you didn't ask us, answer one. Here's what's happening. You've taken the Android Meme and the Chip Body, and you've given it everything. You have now made it where no one writes anymore. Children don't know how to write in school anymore. They don't know how to use words. SMH. OMG. What's the BFD? They've taken all communication and language out of the world, out of the realm. No one diagrams sentences. No one knows what, what predicates are. No one even knows -- look at your educated, educated bullshit people listenin' to your damn show. Don't even know what the past pluperfect tense is. [Bob chuckles] Some don't even know what verbs are. They don't know, and some of these never -- they're trying to get rid of the commas.

Bob 8:04
Right.

iON 8:04
They're trying to get rid of commas. They say they don't need commas anymore. Well, you can't speak without commas. You can't live without punctuation, Bob. [Bob chuckles] You'll kill yourself! You've got to have punctuation. Now, see, you -- what are you sayin'? You don't know what you're sayin'. Okay. And this is what's happened. They've put everything into the cloud, the wrong cloud. So, they've pumped everything into it. That's the reason we told you, whatever you put on the facial book, you'll never get back.

Bob 7:30
Right.

iON 7:30
And what you put in the facial book will be gone. But people are putting everything into their devices. And then what happens is they're gonna lose all of that information, and then they're gonna know nothing. They won't remember their phone number. People used to, people learned their phone numbers. But now, no one knows the phone number, they just hit the picture. That's what they do now.

Bob 8:52
Okay, very good.

iON 8:55
And that's what's happened is they've been lulled into this false place of security and they're smart now. They can get -- Ah, I know what diverticulitis is. Siri. [Bob chuckles] JW calls his, JW calls his Siri, bitch. JW says, bitch. Bitch, tell us what diverticulitis is. And it'll say, "Diverticulitis is a rarrrararra." He'll say, bitch, tell us what time it is. And you gotta trust it whatever it tells you. You say, bitch, how do we get there from here? "Well, the nearest direction, turn right, turn right, turn right." There's no right. "Turn right, turn right, turn right." There's no right. "Turn right, turn right." There's no right. "Turn right. Turn three lefts, and in three-fourths of a mile, make a U turn and go back where you went to and get in your bed and cover up your head and don't ask us no more goddamn questions!" [Bob laughs] That's another conversation. That's another conversation. What ends up happening though, is you put everything into the Chip Body, and it's, it's gonna let you have back just what you want. We have the most fun of any fun that's ever been fun of the fun, fun, fun, of the fun o'meter. This is over the top. We make up stupid ass damn words, put it in the Wikipedia, y'all look it up and go, oh, oh, oh, that's what that is. Oh, oh, oh, that's what it -- okay, what's the etymology on that? Well, we'll have to look up etymology to see what that is. We don't know what it is. Where did the word come from? Well, the Wikipedia! Well now, you do know people just type that shit in there, right?

Bob 10:24
Yeah.

iON 10:25
Oh, that's a, that's a bastion. That's a bastion of, of knowledge and knowing. That's, that's the fulfillment of all the man's knowing and all their information that flows down the information superhighway. Like the river from the stream, it's pure from its source all the way to the basin in which it's received. Well, like you, people are full of shit! [Bob laughs] This is ridiculous! And yet, that's -

Bob 10:47
Okay, I've

iON 10:47
- where they're living now. That's where they're living now, Bob.

Bob 10:49
I know. I know. So, let's end there or I'll just keep wheezing and it will irritate Carolyn. So, I'll stop wheezing.

iON 10:58
Oh, well. Did you, did you get you a sound -- if you didn't get you at least one sound bite out of that, we'd be very surprised.

Bob 11:04
Oh, that's a great one. It's a matter of getting the time to play it 'cause you're taking up the whole 10 hours. So,

iON 11:11
All right. It's a fun day You can put it on your, you can put it on your Excelsior. On your stuff flying, on your commercials and stuff.

Bob 11:18
Right. Hey, what do you think of -- you know, I play a few songs? Can I play, like, could I play this rant instead of the music for 20 minutes -

iON 11:29
Yeah. Yeah.

Bob 11:29
- at the beginning of the show? Is that, that doesn't delay you too much?

iON 11:32
No, it does not. It doesn't matter at all. We don't care. Do what you wanna do. It's fine. We even sent you, we sent you a little bit of music. Not much, but -

Bob 11:40
Yeah.

iON 11:40
- rip rap has caused some stuff. So, it was a -- but there's one song, a melody collage, the jibber jabber jig jack jive jump jimpin jump. It's got a bunch of good songs, but just like a minute or two of each one.

Bob 11:40
Yes.

iON 11:42
So, you get a whole lot of memories without too much time spent. Otherwise, you spend a half hour on that number of songs. That kinda gives them the form fuzzy and warm 'em up, but lets everybody go to the bathroom, you know, and get started.

Bob 12:08
Yeah.

iON 12:08
So, yeah, that's fine. And you can do it in the show, too. Like where you went through and you change callers and you wanna change a topic.

Bob 12:14
Yeah.

iON 12:14
You get some stupid or some asshole or somethin', play some music in that one thing to give it a little different interlude.

Bob 12:21
Yes.

iON 12:21
Gets a chance to get to the bathroom and get somethin' to drink and you know, get yourself back together.

Bob 12:26
Yeah, well, that's such a good rant. It'd be great to start the show off with this rant. Yeah.

iON 12:31
Fine! Fine, and then you (overtalk) right there.

Bob 12:32
Yeah. Okay, very good.

iON 12:34
Now wait. Have it right there and have us ready, have us ready. And when we come off, and when you, when you come off, we'll just pick it up right there. And they'll say, "Was that recorded?" And we go, all is recorded. All is recorded. [Bob laughs] And then we'll just pick it up and we'll just flow with it right there. So, it's actually that the whole damn thing was live, but it wasn't, but it was. You don't even have to present it like to say, we're gonna start. You'll just be we're startin', and then go with it. That'd be fun.

Bob 12:59
All right. All right. Thank you very much. That was a very good session, iON.

iON 13:03
We are complete!

Bob 13:05
Finally! Very good.