Bart’s Excerpts from the Upper Room Dialogues
8 February 2014, Payday
iON: “This process, which we're talking about now, which is noticing the anomalies…”
Carolyn: "Back to the world. Now, what JW was saying about me coming back last night is: 'I had to be back before sunset on Passover in order to make the fifth gate'. And I was not back."
iON: "Yes, you were."
Carolyn: "I was not back before sundown, dark."
iON: "You went through the gate before dark."
Carolyn: "OK."
iON: "And you know that by watching the sun that just kept going down, kept going down... and then all of a sudden it was, like, gone – like, poof!"
Carolyn: "Yes."
iON: "Well, you were chasing it through that gate. And didn’t he send you some mail, saying that you would have been... you just went through the gate, or you'll go in a few minutes?"
Carolyn: "Yeah, but I thought it meant the gate at the airport."
iON: "No. Look at your time. That was exactly when that would have been. It would have been at 8:35 Easternly Standardly Timely."
Carolyn: "OK. Because, yeah, because that’s when I was really looking at the timing and the sunset and everything. Yeah, that feels right. Very good."
Bob: "So, three and a half hours into her flight, she went into the gate? Right, iON?"
iON: "Yes."
Bob: "And you were chasing the sun, so you could catch up to it and get there before the sun went down."
iON: "That’s when the gate closed, because of the anomaly. And we worked this out a week or so ago... some time ago - full moon, Passover, and the 29th."
Bob: "So, when Carolyn was in flight, she goes through the gate, and then the sun went down."
iON: "Uh-huh."
Bob: "And you witnessed it going down, Carolyn?"
Carolyn: "No. It was like iON was saying, I kept seeing the sunset. And, you know, we were just chasing the sun and all of a sudden it was dark. And it was like, 'Man, where am I?'"
Bob: "Right. And that was before you landed when you experienced the dark?"
Carolyn: "Right."
Bob: "And so you thought you missed the gate, but you had already gone through the gate."
Carolyn: "Right."
iON: "You had Tater's credit card, you were OK. You drug something back from the other world. And you knew if you got back to this world with that, that you had been there and drug it back home. So, there's your proof. Make you a copy of that just to file away for ever and ever and ever. That’s great fun."
Bob: "What’s the proof, Carolyn? What happened?"
Carolyn: "JW and iON are saying that the credit card I found and brought back is a card from someone in the parallel world that I was in."
Bob: "OK, and was just saying that’s the fact. OK, so, when you went through the gate, it was shortly after that Carolyn suddenly experienced dark."
Carolyn: "Uh-huh. Yes."
Bob: "You experienced the dark, and you felt surprised. And you had gone through the gate, so that might be why you had a feeling you didn’t know where you were, because you had gone through the gate."
iON: "Well, typically, when the sun goes down, it's not like flipping off a light switch."
Bob: "Right."
iON: "But for Carolyn, it was like, sunset, sunset, sunset - bam! And it wasn't like getting dark; it was, like, dark."
Bob: "Now, that's everybody’s experience on the plane?"
iON: "Yes. Except for that other fellow that was having too much to drink in first class with you."
Bob: "Except for what about him accepting?"
Carolyn: "He didn’t notice anything, because he was drunk."
iON: "He didn’t know where he was."
Bob: "Yeah, but I’m saying, the feeling Carolyn was surprised that it was suddenly dark; the lights went off. Was that feeling related to going through the gate? iON?"
iON: "Could you ask it one more time?"
Bob: "OK, she had this feeling that the lights went out real fast. And I’m wondering if that feeling had nothing to do with the fact that the lights went out, but that she'd gone through the gate, and was slightly disoriented."
iON: "Yes. No, it wasn't disoriented. It was a noticing, paying attention to the anomalies, which is what she just got through saying. And once she went through the gate, the thing that would have normally gotten real soft - you know, like, if you're at the beach super late, and it's getting dusky dark."
Bob: "Yeah."
iON: "The sun's going down, but you can still see your feet in front of your face?"
Bob: "Right."
iON: "Well, this was like you flipped off a switch. And it was like, there was light, light, light, and all of a sudden it was like poof, straight dark. And that’s with a full moon, which would have illuminated things anyway."
Carolyn: "Oh, right."
Bob: "So, you’re saying that was an anomalous experience she felt?"
iON: "One of many, yes. And she noted all of the others."
Carolyn: "Yeah, and with the moon, it just sort of popped up all of a sudden."
iON: "That was your beat and a half... And that’s why, if you had been later, or on a later flight, you could have never caught up to that anomaly, because you would have had no reference point to notice the anomaly thereof."
Bob: "The anomaly of the moon?"
iON: "The anomaly of all of it."
Bob: "What is all of it? All of the anomalies, or the light turning off?"
iON: "We say, yes... because we don’t know where one anomaly ended and the other began. It’s a stringed process, but it's not based on String Theory. It’s a string of a linear progression of a parallel experience. So, when you start running a parallel line next to a parallel line, and one of the lines goes askew, and the other line doesn’t, it’s no longer parallel.
And once you lose your reference point, how do you know where you are? And that's why we've done this, and done this, and done this. And... Carolyn was trying to remember and all of this stuff.
Well, if you didn’t have the anomalies lined up, you never knew when you jumped from one parallel line to the next parallel line. And that’s the anomaly. That’s why we say, if you come back one minute before you left, you can have a great experience and remember none of it.
We’ve done that and done that. My god, you’ve burnt your arm; you've broken feet... you've knocked knee joints out of whack. You've pulled hips out of joint and all of this other stuff – and got the punishment of the contrast of reparation, but didn’t get the benefit of what it was that caused the problem of what you were experiencing in the physical.
Because, the anomaly, when you jump from line to line was ahead of when it happened. But your body didn’t know the difference when you drug it back home with you. That’s how you catch Tuberculosis."
Bob: "That’s how you catch Tuberculosis, by being in another world?"
iON: "No, by running in a parallel stream and trying to jump and get ahead of yourself. Your body is responding. Otherwise, why would they do a skin test, an irritant, to test for TB? Because your body knows more than your mind knows from a reasonable test."
Bob: "You’re saying they do the test because the body knows more."
iON: "Yes. The irritant that they put under the skin will tell them more conclusively whether or not you’ve been exposed to TB than you could know you’ve been exposed to TB. So, they don’t trust you, they trust the body."
Bob: "Right... so, when Carolyn experienced the anomaly of the light switched off, she thought, 'Oh, that’s odd'. And she thought about how she didn’t make it in time, but didn’t care."
iON: "No, she thought about the anomaly, that was all."
Bob: "Yeah, the anomaly. And the anomaly…"
iON: "That it was odd to go click, click and one's light and one's dark."
Bob: "Right. And that anomalous feeling - that feeling of the anomaly – noticing it, that's a sign you’ve slipped from one world to another?"
iON: "That you successfully jumped from one parallel linear pathway to another linear parallel pathway. And that’s why we had to pick through this, sort of, hand in hand, because once Carolyn gets this - and she kind of has now. So, now it’s not what you think, or 'what do I know about this?'
Now, it's, 'I’ve experienced it. And for me, this experience was. And I have vindicatable, validatable, documentable realities regarding my reality.’ Now, having conversation regarding it - we've never said you jump from one line to another."
Carolyn: "Is that the wire whisk?"
iON: "It is. It is, but it’s from a linear standpoint. It’s from a linear standpoint. Because, see, we keep saying that it's not a linear process that you’re living here on planet earth, because of the time. But when you’re talking about from one world stream to another world stream, it is linear.
So, to jump, its best - we talk about parallel worlds. Well, the only thing that makes them parallel is the proximity between you and it."
Bob: "So, people, they have an anomalous experience and they get all puzzled about it. And what they should realize is that, when you have an anomalous experience, that’s a sign that you’re having a normal experience; which normality is that you’re going from one parallel line to another."
iON: "Yes, but to the average Joe…"
Bob: "It’s disorienting."
iON: "And it’s so far outside of their rules and regulations that, if they agreed and took it at face value of what the words that you’re sharing, they would immediately go and check themselves into the insane asylum, because that would not hold with the boundaries that they had already pre-concluded was their boundaries."
Bob: "Right. So, in our state of awareness, when we have an anomaly, that’s useful: 'Oh, good. I just shifted over here. Glad that I was told that by the incomprehensible anomaly'."
iON: "Good. Yes. But up until the present, that would have not worked, you see. You would have been jumping into the spaceship that you saw in your second reading... the spaceship in the clouds that you were able to clearly, visibly see."
Bob: "You’re saying we would have jumped into them if we knew they were parallel lines?"
iON: "If you knew then what you just found out now, you could have jumped and zipped into it right then. But, understanding that, you would have had the dissertation that was required to understand the process could have very easily tricked you off into another Fantasia.
It’s like the 'Improbability Drive' on the 'Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy'. Unless you know where you’re going to end up... you don’t want to hit the Improbability Drive button."
Bob: "Alright, so you’re saying, if we knew about the parallel lines, we'd have a concept of it that would throw us off."
iON: "Yes, that is correct. Good."
Bob: "Now we got to this naturally, no concepts about it. But if it becomes a concept, that’s understandable, or useful."
iON: "Uh-huh. Only now. Good.
8 February 2014, Payday
iON: “This process, which we're talking about now, which is noticing the anomalies…”
Carolyn: "Back to the world. Now, what JW was saying about me coming back last night is: 'I had to be back before sunset on Passover in order to make the fifth gate'. And I was not back."
iON: "Yes, you were."
Carolyn: "I was not back before sundown, dark."
iON: "You went through the gate before dark."
Carolyn: "OK."
iON: "And you know that by watching the sun that just kept going down, kept going down... and then all of a sudden it was, like, gone – like, poof!"
Carolyn: "Yes."
iON: "Well, you were chasing it through that gate. And didn’t he send you some mail, saying that you would have been... you just went through the gate, or you'll go in a few minutes?"
Carolyn: "Yeah, but I thought it meant the gate at the airport."
iON: "No. Look at your time. That was exactly when that would have been. It would have been at 8:35 Easternly Standardly Timely."
Carolyn: "OK. Because, yeah, because that’s when I was really looking at the timing and the sunset and everything. Yeah, that feels right. Very good."
Bob: "So, three and a half hours into her flight, she went into the gate? Right, iON?"
iON: "Yes."
Bob: "And you were chasing the sun, so you could catch up to it and get there before the sun went down."
iON: "That’s when the gate closed, because of the anomaly. And we worked this out a week or so ago... some time ago - full moon, Passover, and the 29th."
Bob: "So, when Carolyn was in flight, she goes through the gate, and then the sun went down."
iON: "Uh-huh."
Bob: "And you witnessed it going down, Carolyn?"
Carolyn: "No. It was like iON was saying, I kept seeing the sunset. And, you know, we were just chasing the sun and all of a sudden it was dark. And it was like, 'Man, where am I?'"
Bob: "Right. And that was before you landed when you experienced the dark?"
Carolyn: "Right."
Bob: "And so you thought you missed the gate, but you had already gone through the gate."
Carolyn: "Right."
iON: "You had Tater's credit card, you were OK. You drug something back from the other world. And you knew if you got back to this world with that, that you had been there and drug it back home. So, there's your proof. Make you a copy of that just to file away for ever and ever and ever. That’s great fun."
Bob: "What’s the proof, Carolyn? What happened?"
Carolyn: "JW and iON are saying that the credit card I found and brought back is a card from someone in the parallel world that I was in."
Bob: "OK, and was just saying that’s the fact. OK, so, when you went through the gate, it was shortly after that Carolyn suddenly experienced dark."
Carolyn: "Uh-huh. Yes."
Bob: "You experienced the dark, and you felt surprised. And you had gone through the gate, so that might be why you had a feeling you didn’t know where you were, because you had gone through the gate."
iON: "Well, typically, when the sun goes down, it's not like flipping off a light switch."
Bob: "Right."
iON: "But for Carolyn, it was like, sunset, sunset, sunset - bam! And it wasn't like getting dark; it was, like, dark."
Bob: "Now, that's everybody’s experience on the plane?"
iON: "Yes. Except for that other fellow that was having too much to drink in first class with you."
Bob: "Except for what about him accepting?"
Carolyn: "He didn’t notice anything, because he was drunk."
iON: "He didn’t know where he was."
Bob: "Yeah, but I’m saying, the feeling Carolyn was surprised that it was suddenly dark; the lights went off. Was that feeling related to going through the gate? iON?"
iON: "Could you ask it one more time?"
Bob: "OK, she had this feeling that the lights went out real fast. And I’m wondering if that feeling had nothing to do with the fact that the lights went out, but that she'd gone through the gate, and was slightly disoriented."
iON: "Yes. No, it wasn't disoriented. It was a noticing, paying attention to the anomalies, which is what she just got through saying. And once she went through the gate, the thing that would have normally gotten real soft - you know, like, if you're at the beach super late, and it's getting dusky dark."
Bob: "Yeah."
iON: "The sun's going down, but you can still see your feet in front of your face?"
Bob: "Right."
iON: "Well, this was like you flipped off a switch. And it was like, there was light, light, light, and all of a sudden it was like poof, straight dark. And that’s with a full moon, which would have illuminated things anyway."
Carolyn: "Oh, right."
Bob: "So, you’re saying that was an anomalous experience she felt?"
iON: "One of many, yes. And she noted all of the others."
Carolyn: "Yeah, and with the moon, it just sort of popped up all of a sudden."
iON: "That was your beat and a half... And that’s why, if you had been later, or on a later flight, you could have never caught up to that anomaly, because you would have had no reference point to notice the anomaly thereof."
Bob: "The anomaly of the moon?"
iON: "The anomaly of all of it."
Bob: "What is all of it? All of the anomalies, or the light turning off?"
iON: "We say, yes... because we don’t know where one anomaly ended and the other began. It’s a stringed process, but it's not based on String Theory. It’s a string of a linear progression of a parallel experience. So, when you start running a parallel line next to a parallel line, and one of the lines goes askew, and the other line doesn’t, it’s no longer parallel.
And once you lose your reference point, how do you know where you are? And that's why we've done this, and done this, and done this. And... Carolyn was trying to remember and all of this stuff.
Well, if you didn’t have the anomalies lined up, you never knew when you jumped from one parallel line to the next parallel line. And that’s the anomaly. That’s why we say, if you come back one minute before you left, you can have a great experience and remember none of it.
We’ve done that and done that. My god, you’ve burnt your arm; you've broken feet... you've knocked knee joints out of whack. You've pulled hips out of joint and all of this other stuff – and got the punishment of the contrast of reparation, but didn’t get the benefit of what it was that caused the problem of what you were experiencing in the physical.
Because, the anomaly, when you jump from line to line was ahead of when it happened. But your body didn’t know the difference when you drug it back home with you. That’s how you catch Tuberculosis."
Bob: "That’s how you catch Tuberculosis, by being in another world?"
iON: "No, by running in a parallel stream and trying to jump and get ahead of yourself. Your body is responding. Otherwise, why would they do a skin test, an irritant, to test for TB? Because your body knows more than your mind knows from a reasonable test."
Bob: "You’re saying they do the test because the body knows more."
iON: "Yes. The irritant that they put under the skin will tell them more conclusively whether or not you’ve been exposed to TB than you could know you’ve been exposed to TB. So, they don’t trust you, they trust the body."
Bob: "Right... so, when Carolyn experienced the anomaly of the light switched off, she thought, 'Oh, that’s odd'. And she thought about how she didn’t make it in time, but didn’t care."
iON: "No, she thought about the anomaly, that was all."
Bob: "Yeah, the anomaly. And the anomaly…"
iON: "That it was odd to go click, click and one's light and one's dark."
Bob: "Right. And that anomalous feeling - that feeling of the anomaly – noticing it, that's a sign you’ve slipped from one world to another?"
iON: "That you successfully jumped from one parallel linear pathway to another linear parallel pathway. And that’s why we had to pick through this, sort of, hand in hand, because once Carolyn gets this - and she kind of has now. So, now it’s not what you think, or 'what do I know about this?'
Now, it's, 'I’ve experienced it. And for me, this experience was. And I have vindicatable, validatable, documentable realities regarding my reality.’ Now, having conversation regarding it - we've never said you jump from one line to another."
Carolyn: "Is that the wire whisk?"
iON: "It is. It is, but it’s from a linear standpoint. It’s from a linear standpoint. Because, see, we keep saying that it's not a linear process that you’re living here on planet earth, because of the time. But when you’re talking about from one world stream to another world stream, it is linear.
So, to jump, its best - we talk about parallel worlds. Well, the only thing that makes them parallel is the proximity between you and it."
Bob: "So, people, they have an anomalous experience and they get all puzzled about it. And what they should realize is that, when you have an anomalous experience, that’s a sign that you’re having a normal experience; which normality is that you’re going from one parallel line to another."
iON: "Yes, but to the average Joe…"
Bob: "It’s disorienting."
iON: "And it’s so far outside of their rules and regulations that, if they agreed and took it at face value of what the words that you’re sharing, they would immediately go and check themselves into the insane asylum, because that would not hold with the boundaries that they had already pre-concluded was their boundaries."
Bob: "Right. So, in our state of awareness, when we have an anomaly, that’s useful: 'Oh, good. I just shifted over here. Glad that I was told that by the incomprehensible anomaly'."
iON: "Good. Yes. But up until the present, that would have not worked, you see. You would have been jumping into the spaceship that you saw in your second reading... the spaceship in the clouds that you were able to clearly, visibly see."
Bob: "You’re saying we would have jumped into them if we knew they were parallel lines?"
iON: "If you knew then what you just found out now, you could have jumped and zipped into it right then. But, understanding that, you would have had the dissertation that was required to understand the process could have very easily tricked you off into another Fantasia.
It’s like the 'Improbability Drive' on the 'Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy'. Unless you know where you’re going to end up... you don’t want to hit the Improbability Drive button."
Bob: "Alright, so you’re saying, if we knew about the parallel lines, we'd have a concept of it that would throw us off."
iON: "Yes, that is correct. Good."
Bob: "Now we got to this naturally, no concepts about it. But if it becomes a concept, that’s understandable, or useful."
iON: "Uh-huh. Only now. Good.
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