Bart’s Excerpts from the Upper Room Dialogues
27 October 2013, Payday
Carolyn: “‘Unto thee, O man,
have I given my knowledge.
Unto thee have I given of Light.
Hear ye now and receive my wisdom
brought from space planes above and beyond.’”
iON: "Oh, thank goodness, you finally got rid of time."
Carolyn mentions "wisdom" has a small "w".
iON: "Wisdom... it’s a little 'w'... it’s almost the wisdom that they could hear... "
Carolyn: "But they didn’t."
iON: "Well, time will tell."
Carolyn: "’Not as man am I
for free have I become of dimensions and planes.
In each, take I on a new body.
In each, I change in my form.
Know I now that the formless is all there is of form.’"
iON: "Now, do you understand that?"
Carolyn: "Well, formless, so... there is no physicality--"
iON: "--Well, here's the question, so I can just cut to the chase. It says, ‘formless’... you have... your bodies - your meatsacks are different, but does it say that the non-physical part is different?"
Carolyn: "No."
iON: "Don’t you find that interesting? That the quizzical part of trying to figure it all out... "
Bob: "So, you’re saying that the formless applies to the meatsacks?"
iON: "Yes, and nowhere does it say so far that it’s a different non-physical that’s plugged in... "
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Bob: "The formless is the only stable part... the only constant."
iON: "Change is the only constant."
Carolyn: "’Great is the wisdom of the Seven.
Mighty are THEY from beyond.
Manifest THEY through their power,
filled by force from beyond.
…
Hear ye these words of wisdom.
Hear ye and make them thine own.
Find in them the formless.
Mystery is but hidden knowledge.
Know and ye shall unveil.
Find the deep buried wisdom
and be master of darkness and Light.’"
iON: "You can live in the world but not be of the world. And no matter what the meme is, it doesn’t have to have any cohesive reflection on you. That’s why we had JW call earlier to ask 'What’s the news?' And the news was 'We don’t get any news. We don’t know any news'... the sky could be falling on everyone else and you wouldn’t even notice."
Carolyn: "’Deep are the mysteries around thee,
hidden the secrets of Old.
Search through the KEYS of my WISDOM.
Surely shall ye find the way.
The gateway to power is secret,
but he who attains shall receive.
Look to the LIGHT! O my brother.
Open and ye shall receive.
Press on through the valley of darkness.
Overcome the dweller of night.
Keep ever thine eyes of the LIGHT-PLANE,
and thou shalt be One with the LIGHT.’"
iON: "Enlightenment."
Carolyn: "man is in process of changing
to forms that are not of this world."
iON: "Little 'm'… the inference is that man is changing in this world."
Carolyn: "’Grows he in time to the formless' ... So, they threw time into it again."
iON: "That’s OK, because that’s what the little 'm' is working against. Grows he in time toward the timeless - toward the timeless. So, if you are still bound by time, you can expand to the timeless.
But see, you’re ahead of that curve already because you sleep with Bob, and Bob’s been timeless for some time."
Carolyn: "’Grows he is time to the formless,
a plane on the cycle above’."
iON: "OK, there’s your slipping. There’s your slippage of what you were saying, which is correct. That straightens out your multi-worlds... "
Carolyn: "’Know ye, ye must become formless before ye are with the LIGHT,
List ye, O man, to my voice,
telling of pathways to Light,
showing the way of attainment
when ye shall be One with the Light.'
So, yeah, more directions to the little guy.
‘Search ye the mysteries of Earth's heart.
Learn of the LAW that exists,
holding the stars in their balance
by the force of the primordial mist’."
iON: "That’s the ‘Law of Attraction’."
Carolyn: "’Seek ye the flame of the EARTH'S LIFE.
Bathe in the glare of its flame.
Follow the three-cornered pathway
until thou, too, art a flame’."
iON: "'Three-cornered pathway'. Which one is that?"
Bob: "Meatsack, non-physical and mind."
iON: "Yep. Father, Son, Holy Ghost... "
Bob: "And which one’s the meatsack, the Son?"
iON: "Since you drug us there, some people are so mindful of their meatsack... you know they’re buffed up, six-and-a-half pack... for them, Father for them would be their 4% body fat deity. For other people, they don’t have any regard for their body. So, that’s interchangeable. You are the creator; you set the order. For some people it’s the sexual conquest of the chase... "
Carolyn: "’Follow the three-cornered pathway
until thou, too, art a flame.
Speak thou in words without voice
to those who dwell down below.
Enter the blue-litten temple
and bathe in the fire of all life.
Know, O man, thou art complex,
a being of earth and of fire’."
iON: "There you go. See, that’s just exactly as we were describing it. The three points can spin, but either one can be the head of the pile depending on your direction."
Carolyn: "’Know, O man, thou art complex,
a being of earth and of fire
Let thy flame shine out brightly.
Be thou only the fire’."
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They want us to focus on the non-physical?"
iON: "That’s not necessarily the case."
Bob: "What is fire referring to?"
iON: "Fire is that cohesive, seamless bond."
Bob: "Of the three?"
iON: "Of the three, yes. Because if you get that, you’re there; then you don’t have to worry about the rules and the law."
Carolyn: "’Wisdom is hidden in darkness.
When lit by the flame of the Soul,
find thou the wisdom and be LIGHT-BORN,
a Sun of the Light without form’."
iON: "See how the pyramid spins?"
Bob: "Where’s the pyramid?"
Carolyn: "The three-cornered path… "
‘Seek thee ever more wisdom.
Find it in the heart of the flame.
Know that only by striving
and Light pour into thy brain.
Now have I spoken with wisdom.
List to my Voice and obey.
Tear open the Veils of the darkness.
Shine a LIGHT on the WAY.
Speak I of Ancient Atlantis,
speak of the days
of the Kingdom of Shadows’."
iON: "Wait. Now, do we know what they’re talking about with the Kingdom of Shadows? When Atlantis gets here, they make reference to the Egyptian pyramids. And if you take one point of the pyramid - you have three sides… you have the bottom and the two sides coming together. You have four of those that’s twelve, and you have the cap, that’s thirteen... but the capstone is the thirteenth.
And that’s thirteen tribes of Israel; that’s that point of enlightenment. And as the sun sets on those pyramids those are degrees of shadows, because as they fall off those angles, those shadows change. But that’s that ebbing and flowing of the sun rising and setting"
Bob: "So, the Kingdom of Shadows is what’s on the pyramid?"
iON: "No, the Kingdom of Shadows are the shadows that your physicalness imbibe. You got something
dirty in your past you don’t want anybody to find out about. That’s in the shadows.
It still is, but you don’t care if anybody finds out, then it’s no longer veiled. It’s unveiled.
See, you have no carnal thoughts, or fornicating processes, or murdering, lying, cheating, coveting your neighbor's ass and ox... back to that reference of the Law, remember, that you were supposed to have learned already."
Bob: "You’re saying Atlantis… that refers to the Egyptian pyramids?"
iON: "When Atlantis gets here, they use that as their reference as how they became."
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iON: "The shadows are where the pyramid drops the sunshine of that angle... the shadows are caused by the pyramid being between the sunshine and where you are standing."
Bob: "There are these shadows going on around the pyramid... "
Carolyn: "The Kingdom of Shadows is like what the little men are stuck in."
iON: "Sometimes, yes… And you can chase the shadow around the pyramid, except for 12 o’clock when the sun is right above."
Carolyn: "’Speak I of Ancient Atlantis,
speak of the days
of the Kingdom of Shadows,
speak of the coming
of the children of shadows.
Out of the great deep were they called
by the wisdom of earth-men,
called for the purpose of gaining great power.
Far in the past before Atlantis existed,
men there were who delved into darkness,
using dark magic, calling up beings
from the great deep below us.
Forth came they into this cycle.
Formless were they of another vibration,
existing unseen by the children of earth-men.
Only through blood could they have formed being.
Only through man could they live in the world’."
Bob: "'Formless were they of another vibration’ - was that talking about little men?"
iON: "Nephilim... now wait a minute, 'Forth they came, from another vibration', that sounds like your rift activity's begun, does it not?"
Bob: "'Far in the past before Atlantis existed,
men there were who delved into darkness,
using dark magic, calling up beings'
Calling up beings - calling up Nephilim?"
iON: "Yes."
Bob: "'from the great deep below us.
Forth came they into this cycle.'
So, that means the beings?"
iON agrees.
Bob: "'existing unseen by the children'. The Nephilim weren’t seen. 'Only through blood could they have formed being'. The men need the Nephilim to exist, or to continue. Remember, they had to have the Nephilim to make the kids?"
iON: "Well, at least so Cain and Abel could find a wife."
Bob: "'Only through blood could they have formed being', meaning men, right?"
iON: "Yes, very good."
Bob: "'Only through man could they live in the world'. Only through men could the Nephilim live in the world?"
iON: "Be seen in the world."
Bob: "No, it says ‘live in the world’... "
iON: "You just got through with being seen in the world noted."
Carolyn: "Live and be seen is the same thing…
‘In ages past were they conquered by Masters,
driven below to the place whence they came.
But some there were who remained,
hidden in spaces and planes unknown to man’."
iON: "Yes. So, you had a flood to wipe them out, but it didn’t get them all."
Bob: "'in ages past were they' - is that Nephilim or man?"
Carolyn: "The Nephilim product."
iON: "Right. Were conquered by man."
Bob: "Conquered by 'Masters', which is man?"
iON: "Enlightened Man."
Bob: "After the flood?"
iON: "Yes, but some made it through the flood."
Bob: "And they aren’t the guardians for transitioning to the Guf."
iON: "No."
Carolyn: "’Lived they in Atlantis as shadows,
but at times they appeared among men.
Aye, when the blood was offered,
for they came they to dwell among men’."
Bob: "They were in the future."
iON: "Of course, but they’re giving reference to the non-physical orb creatures... dead people, angels... orbs... beams of light... refractions... peripheral vision... when the hair stands up on the back of your neck... when the phone rings and it’s a non-physical entity trying to call you. All of the hauntings; all of the ‘spookers’; all of the aspects that you create; those are the parts that were hidden, during and after the flood."
Bob: "We created the Nephilim?"
Carolyn: "Yes, we created everything."
iON: "Because otherwise, Cain and Abel would have to marry themselves. And they couldn’t figure out which one was pitching and which one was catching, so it was better to have a wife."
Bob: "So, Nephilim were created by us so... "
iON: "They came… they were called forth--"
Bob: "--By us?"
iON: "Of course, or they couldn’t be."
Bob: "So, all of this is created by the little men."
Carolyn: "Well, the dark men, I guess."
iON: "Well, you haven’t sorted out the evil ones amongst you yet, but when you get to that, then you can make that dissertation."
Bob: "But the original dimensions here were created by little man? I don’t think so. They were created by Masters, or something. I don’t know... who created the trees and the world here, Carolyn?"
iON: "Well, you got... you’re tangling up the point. They’re giving you reference dealing with little men, because they’re from the future, trying to get little men to become capital ‘M’; because if they can become capital M, then it might have a chance and can be created.
So, their reference is giving men, little men - they weren’t little men, they were marvelous creators.
They knew that, otherwise, they wouldn’t have hid the tablets, and the ones that haven’t been found yet, into the place where they could gain the knowledge; so they could become beings of invisibleness that could become into the three-pointed edge pyramid to understand how the jewels go between the different rifts and dimensions that bring them up into a place where they can then flow seamlessly into the creation of this Atlantis that everyone’s been looking for for a couple of hundred thousand years... "
Bob: "So, the future has to create human beings at a starting point, so the future can exist... "
iON: "Yes, but where did it begin?"
Bob: "That will never be determined."
iON: "If it can’t end, where did it begin?... If you could just get rid of that fucking time, you’d be on the mark... It’s the time element that draws you into the false premise, that then makes you wonder where you came from, or where you’re going, or who you are... it’s a wonder that the suicide rate isn’t more than it is."
Bob: “‘hidden in spaces and planes unknown to man.
Lived they in Atlantis as shadows,
but at times they appeared among men.
Aye, when the blood was offered,
for they came they to dwell among men’."
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Carolyn: “'When the blood was offered,
for they came they to dwell among men'"
Bob: "Only when the blood was offered?"
Carolyn: "Well, the blood was the intermingling."
Bob: "Is that right, iON?"
iON: "Comingling."
Bob: "They haven’t made reference to the flood yet, right?"
iON: "Well, they’ve made inference to this process. We brought the flood in... Every major religion gives reference to the flood... So, it’s easy just to stir that in, because they go, 'Oh, yeah. Back then’. They don’t know when it was, but it was, 'Oh, yeah. Back then'."
Carolyn: "’Aye, when the blood was offered,
for they came they to dwell among men.
In the form of man they amongst us,
but only to sight were they as are men.
Serpent-headed when the glamour was lifted
but appearing to man as men among men.
Crept they into the Councils,
taking forms that were like unto men.
Crept they into the Councils,
taking forms that were like unto men.
Slaying by their arts
the chiefs of the kingdoms,
taking their form and ruling o'er man’."
Bob: "And this was Nephilim?"
iON: "Yes, and some Seraphim."
Bob: "And what would be the difference between Nephilim and Seraphim?"
iON: "Well, they don’t have genders, but it would be the aspect of the female and the male."
Carolyn: "’Slaying by their arts
the chiefs of the kingdoms,
taking their form and ruling o'er man.
Only by magic could they be discovered.
Only by sound could their faces be seen.
Sought they from the Kingdom of Shadows
to destroy man and rule in his place’."
Bob: "Well, see, that’s the angels. They don’t like man, so they actually came down and staged a few coups."
iON: "Yes, continually, because man was more powerful than them. Man created them... This is where man ends up creating Lucifer, one of the fallen angels. And this is that shadows of the darkness and how that all is created."
Bob: "Yeah, it’s like in ‘Blade Runner’, the clone comes back."
iON: "Precisely, precisely. Very good. And you can develop that if you want to. See, it’s all there."
Bob: "All where? Are you referring to the movie, or this, you’re referring to this and everything spins off from it?"
iON: "Yes, and explains it all pretty good, Lucy."
Bob: "These are all the stories... all of the stories of man."
Carolyn: "Yeah, all rolled into one…
'But, know ye, the Masters were mighty in magic,
able to lift the Veil from the face of the serpent,
able to send him back to his place.
Came they to man and taught him the secret,
the WORD that only a man can pronounce.
Swift then they lifted the Veil from the serpent
and cast him forth from the place among men’."
iON: "Now, you understand this is the thinning of the veil; coming into your power, you human, marvelous, delicious creator, you."
Bob: "You mean back then?"
iON: "No, but it’s now, because it’s just now coming out now. I haven’t picked anything up in Harper Row that’s said this lately."
Bob: "Right, back then they lifted the veil from the serpent."
iON: "Did they? Yes, but when did they complete that? That’s happening now, Bob."
Bob: "Wait a minute. It didn’t happen before the flood?"
iON: "No."
Bob: "So, we're talking about not then."
iON: "We're only talking about now. The then is how you got to now."
Bob: "So, the UFOs... It’s the whole popularity of the reptiles, and how people talk about the reptilian--"
iON "--h, you’re talking about the lizard people?"
Carolyn: "Yeah."
Bob: "That’s an unconscious projection of this thinning of the veil."
iON: "But they see lizard people... those Lemurians, now."
Bob: "That’s what I mean. They’re saying, now... the Queen's a lizard... they go into this... David
Icke does. But that projection of lizard people among us sounds like an aspect of the actual veil lifting."
iON: "Can be, because now all of the boogeymen - the veil lifting is as easily explained as, you tell the little boy he's got monsters under the bed, and he can't sleep because there’s monsters in his closet and under his bed.
You look every night, and he still has monsters under the bed. But you let him know that he is more powerful than the boogeyman, and he can send the boogeyman on his way.
The little kid says, 'Fine. I'll send the boogeyman on his way.' Now, he never has that trouble anymore. That’s the dumbed down version, but it works."
Bob: "But if we go back up, Carolyn, we're talking about then. And suddenly it shifted to now."
Carolyn: "No, it’s always been now."
Bob: "Well, we were talking about then."
Carolyn: "Then is when we're talking about the little men trying to learn stuff--"
iON "--to come to the big 'M'. But now we're to the big M, so you’ve got it."
Bob: "Oh, it switched when we have, 'But, know ye, the Masters were mighty in magic'?"
iON: "Yes, and that’s why we switched. We've been making note of that all the way through when we say, 'little m... then… big M', that was your switch."
Bob: "Yeah, well, let’s be precise. They go, 'Sought they from the Kingdom of Shadows to destroy man and rule in his place.' That’s the end of the little men, because the next paragraph starts with capital M, Masters."
iON: "Yes."
Bob: "So, that switches to now."
iON: "No, then was talking about now, because there are people running around now that are little m's."
Bob: "'Came they to man and taught him the secret’. That would be, the Masters came."
iON: "Yes."
Bob: "’the WORD that only a man can pronounce.
Swift then they lifted the Veil from the serpent
and cast him forth from the place among men'.
That’s where you get your boogeyman thing."
iON: "And the WORD is the power that has to be ushered by the capital M; otherwise, it doesn’t work."
Carolyn: "’Yet, beware, the serpent still liveth
in a place that is open at times to the world’."
iON: "Big ‘World’, or little ‘world’?"
Carolyn: "Little ‘world’."
iON: "There you go. Good."
Carolyn: "So, that means those bad guys are walking back and forth?"
iON: "No, that means that everybody who is a little m can still be troubled by the little serpent."
Carolyn: "’Unseen they walk among thee
in places where the rites have been said.
Again as time passes onward
shall they take the semblance of men
in places where the rites have been said.
Again as time passes onward
shall they take the semblance of men.
Called may they be by the master
who knows the white or the black,
but only the white master may control
and bind them while in the flesh’."
iON: "Yes, because what's bound on--"
Carolyn: "--No capitals anywhere."
iON: "Right, because here's the trick, what man binds on Earth shall be bound in Heaven. And what’s bound in Heaven shall be bound on Earth. That’s significant because that’s the binding part.
The point is that, in the interdimensional ranges, the only power is in man, whether he's a little m, or a capital M. And if he's powered up as a... let's do it this way, if a five-year-old has a loaded pistol, he can shoot bullets that can kill people. OK?
A grown man, or capital Man - now, I'm not saying this about children, I’m just saying that’s just a way to understand it.
A grown Man can have a gun, and shoot it and kill people. But a grown Man, enlightened, understands the dynamic of a pistol and decides that it’s not best to run around shooting folks. And they choose.
Only the capital Man can control the creation; when you’re talking a reference to the Masters. And that’s when we brought it about, being bound on earth is bound in Heaven and vice versa."
Bob: "Does this binding have something to do with the physical and non-physical united?"
iON: "Yes, that’s how you get a capital M."
Bob: "But, 'Called may they be by the master', that’s not a capital M, Master."
iON: "Well, it may be a becoming Master, because you’re still the creator and you have the power."
Bob: "’who knows the white or the black,
but only the white master may control
and bind them while in the flesh’."
iON: "Gotcha. See? Perfect."
Carolyn: "And what are you binding? Are you back to binding the three - body, mind, spirit?"
Bob: "No, angels."
iON: "Angels and everything foreign to your Earth force."
Carolyn: "And what does binding them mean?"
iON: "Well, setting them aside, 'Boogeyman, go away. Don’t live in my closet’… ‘Trouble me no more to your own peril'… 'The world can fall, but not on me’, that kind of thing. And now you see that wrapping in the now of the little man and the capital M."
Carolyn: "’Seek not the Kingdom of Shadows,
for evil will surely appear.
For only the master of brightness
shall conquer the shadow of fear.
Know ye, O my brother,
that fear is an obstacle great.
Be master of all in the brightness,
the shadow will soon disappear.
Hear ye and heed my wisdom,
the voice of LIGHT is clear.
Seek not the valley of shadow,
and LIGHT will only appear’... "
iON: "Enlightenment. Very good... "
Bob: "Is enlightenment tactile-visceral... intergalactic? This phrase, ‘tactile-visceral'--"
iON "--Can be. But, see, that depends on if you’re asking from the aspect of a little m or a capital M. See? So, that's perfect. It’s a good way to explain it."
Carolyn: "Do you want to explain it for the record?"
iON: "Well, we did already."
Bob: "Yeah, tactile-visceral for both little man or big Man, either one, is enlightenment. There’s tactile-visceral with the present for little man and big Man, but only tactile-visceral for the other planes by capital M, Man"
iON: "Gotcha. Good, Bob. If we ever call in sick you could take over…"
Carolyn: "Now, I don’t get that."
Bob: "We talk about tactile-visceral engagement with the present. It’s like living actively/non-actively in the present. You're tapped in, tuned in, turned on."
iON: "Well, let’s get it to an example... here we go, you're coming along, everything’s going good, you're clicking along, and the next thing you know, 14,000 emails go into the abyss.
And you're like, 'Wait a second. I’m the creator. I own this. This is my thing. I have to stop, drop and roll if I'm on fire.'
Now, you might be a capital M, and you might be a little m, but either way, you notice that the 14,000 emails aren't there. And when you give your undivided attention to that, then if you're a capital M, then it’s just a matter of simply relaxing and allowing and letting it work itself out.
And if it’s a little m, then it can be pressure, contrast, problems, 'Oh, my god. I must have lived badly. This is karma coming to destroy my very beingness.' You see what I'm saying? The little m's reference of, 'Well, I was bad, therefore bad things come to me.'...
Or, if it's a capital M, you know it wasn't personal. We just need to distract ourselves, or find something else that’s the fastest path to our joy, ‘because I know those 14,000 emails will be in the last place I look’.
So, then you take dominion from the other plane, and it works itself out. Then it’s just a little span in your continuum, and it basically slows things down long enough for you to catch up with all that is. So, then you come into a place of going, 'OK, good. Now, next step – let’s have a website'."
Carolyn: "OK, you said, 'Now you take dominion from the other plane'?"
iON: "Well, because... Bob was giving reference to the capital M's are the only ones that can manifest in the other planes. Well, you’ve got to be a capital M to do that, or you'll have no causal effect on the different tactile planes…"
Carolyn: "So, the capital Men... are the only ones who can manifest in the other plane and the little man can’t... "
Bob: "But we're saying that capital Man has more comprehensive tactile-visceral engagement with reality. Little man, when he's feeling really tapped in, turned on, he thinks he’s tactile-visceral, or that’s the term we refer to – they’re 'living in the moment'… they think they're grooving."
iON: "Well, they are in their moment. And it’s as good as they want it, so that’s good enough."
Bob: "And if they get a problem, little tactile-visceral man 1-2-3's it. Capital Man, in this
world, 3-2-1's it."
iON: "When you’re able to do that with any type of tenacity, to slip through other dimensions becomes just as easy as choosing to go to the beach, or not to go to the beach."
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Carolyn: "’List ye, O man,
to the depth of my wisdom.
Speak I of knowledge hidden from man.
Far have I been
on my journey through SPACE-TIME,
even to the end of space of this cycle.
Aye, glimpsed the HOUNDS of the Barrier’."
Bob: "This is the fear of going to other worlds."
Carolyn: "’lying in wait for he who would pass them.
In that space where time exists not,
faintly I sensed the guardians of cycles.
Move they only through angles.
Free are they not of the curved dimensions’."
iON: "Now, do you see why we did the thirteen angles?"
Bob: "This is like JW being fearful for Carolyn going into the rift. Similar theme... So, he was saying, 'Well, you’ve got to be careful. You might project the hounds into your reality.'... So, I'm just saying, the 'HOUNDS of the Barrier' are projections of our own fear. Right? You agree with that?"
iON: "No, because it’s a capital H."
Bob: "What’s that mean?"
iON: "Well, they're enlightened HOUNDS."
Bob: "They’re there to help you."
iON: "Well, they are, in that aspect, absolutely. Eyes wide open, then you’re good. But that’s not exactly what we're talking about here. But rather than undo creation, let’s let it flow, and then we'll get back to there, promise."
Carolyn: "’Strange and terrible
are the HOUNDS of the Barrier.
Follow they consciousness to the limits of space.
Think not to escape by entering your body,
for follow they fast the Soul through angles.
Only the circle will give ye protection,
save from the claws
of the DWELLERS IN ANGLES’.
So, you have to stay in your non-physical when you’re doing this stuff."
iON: "Exactly. And you can take your physicalness with you, but you’ve got to do it in the circles rather than in the angles."
Bob: "Why do you say... what stuff are you doing in the non-physical?"
Carolyn: "Travel."
Bob: "Well, that’s a given... Carolyn is taken by the fact that she’s... not taking her physical."
iON: "Well, she can take the physical, as long as she stays in the loop... the circles: the infinity loop. But if you use the angles, then you’ve got to put that in the shadows, and do it only through non-physical.
And that’s like any creation - sometimes you can do it in your mind before you do it in your physical... "
Bob: "What are the 'DWELLERS IN ANGLES'?"
iON: "It’s you… we say that’s you, but if you’re not fear-based, then there's not much that's not uncovered in the LIGHT. Then it becomes a capital M, and now that’s a whole different conversation. You can see dead people, and it doesn’t mean they’ve come to take over your life... "
Carolyn: "’Once, in a time past,
I approached the great Barrier,
and saw on the shores where time exists not,
the formless forms
of the HOUNDS of the barrier.
Aye, hiding in the midst beyond time I found them;
and THEY, scenting me afar off,
raised themselves and gave the great bell cry
that could be heard from cycle to cycle
and moved through space toward my soul’."
Bob: "Imagine people reading this in hundreds of years. And they’d say, oh, imaging it's a trick. It makes the person project ‘HOUNDS of the Barrier’ at the edges, and you have to have a clear mind not to be afraid of that."
Carolyn: "And think of the Harry Potter stories that had the hounds."
iON: "Hark, hark the dogs do bark."
Carolyn: "’Fled I then fast before them,
back from time's unthinkable end’."
Bob: "See, he can’t handle the end of time."
iON: "Because there’s not one."
Bob: "Yeah, but he can’t handle that; so, the fear of time stopping is a projection of the dogs."
Carolyn: "’But ever after me pursued they,
moving in strange angles not known to man.
Aye, on the gray shores of TIME-SPACE'S end
found I the HOUNDS of the Barrier,
ravening for the Soul
who attempts the beyond’.
And what’s all of this fear-based stuff?"
Bob: "Well, you have to go through it. If you read this and believe it, and you’re inside it and don’t understand any of what you’ve learned, then you'll be subject to this fear."
iON: "Exactly. So, you get to the other side and you don’t know how to get back."
Bob: "So, you overcome your fear--"
iON "--Before you go."
Bob: "Yeah, and you’ve got to say, 'Oh, I'll be able to handle the hounds'."
Carolyn: "’I am pure of heart’…
‘Fled I through circles back to my body.
Fled, and fast after me they followed.
Aye, after me the devourers followed,
seeking through angles to devour my Soul.
Aye, know ye man,
that the Soul who dares the Barrier
may be held in bondage
by the HOUNDS from beyond time,
held till this cycle is completed
and left behind
when the consciousness leaves’."
Bob: "That’s the joke 'beyond time', as if there is time."
iON: "Right. Good."
Bob: "It’s a trick. It’s a concept you have to get through. They’re testing to see if you know there’s no time, or that you will experience no time."
iON: "Right."
Carolyn: "’may be held in bondage
by the HOUNDS from beyond time,
held till this cycle is completed
and left behind
when the consciousness leaves.
Entered I my body.
Created the circles that know not angles,
created the form
that from my form was formed.
Made my body into a circle
and lost the pursuers in the circles of time.
But, even yet, when free from my body,
cautious ever must I be
not to move through angles,
else my soul may never be free.
Know ye, the HOUNDS of the Barrier
move only through angles
and never through curves of space.
Only by moving through curves
can ye escape them,
for in angles they will pursue thee.
O man, heed ye my warning;
Seek not to break open
the gate to beyond.
Few there are
who have succeeded in passing the Barrier
to the greater LIGHT that shines beyond.
For know ye, ever the dwellers,
seek such Souls to hold in their thrall’."
Bob: "Yeah... a month or two ago, iON mentioned curved time, curved dimension... "
iON: "Right."
Carolyn: "’Listen, O man, and heed ye my warning;
seek ye to move not in angles but curves,
And if while free from thy body,
though hearest the sound like the bay of a hound
ringing clear and bell-like through thy being,
flee back to thy body through circles,
penetrate not the midst mist before.
When thou hath entered the form thou hast dwelt in,
use thou the cross and the circle combined.
Open thy mouth and use thou thy Voice.
Utter the WORD and thou shalt be free.
Only the one who of LIGHT has the fullest
can hope to pass by the guards of the way.
And then must he move
through strange curves and angles
that are formed in direction not known to man.
List ye, O man, and heed ye my warning:
attempt not to pass the guards on the way.
Rather should ye seek to gain of thine own Light
and make thyself ready to pass on the way.
LIGHT is thine ultimate end, O my brother.
Seek and find ever the Light on the way’.
The end."
Bob: "See, they create the disease of the hounds, and then offered a cure: the circles."
iON: "With the little m, yes."
Bob: "They create... here's a problem, and here is a solution. But you realize you don’t even need the solution if you’re a big Man."
iON: "You understand there is no problem."
Bob: "Yeah, but they are saying, 'there is a problem' and 'here is a solution to guide you through, but some day you’re going to have to realize there is no problem'... "
…
Bob: "It says the 'DWELLERS IN ANGLES', and you go... that's all of your skeletons and ghosts, and you get around them through the curves. And then you think of Einstein's curved space; and it’s like Einstein is establishing that space is curved, but he's actually operating within this disease-solution situation and uncovering curveness as an antidote to the Newtonian angles... is there more to do on this, iON? I think you said this would be, 'the key of mystery'."
iON: "It is."
Bob: "What is the overall plan of this tablet? Moving from little man to big Man?"
iON: "That’s the main one."
Bob: "And then there’s this whole issue of the HOUNDS before you can become capital M, Man."
iON: "The HOUNDS are your path to guide you."
Bob: "Right. And it’s what you are cautious of. But you need to go through the fear of the HOUNDS and the need for the circles to become capital M…” ]]
27 October 2013, Payday
Carolyn: “‘Unto thee, O man,
have I given my knowledge.
Unto thee have I given of Light.
Hear ye now and receive my wisdom
brought from space planes above and beyond.’”
iON: "Oh, thank goodness, you finally got rid of time."
Carolyn mentions "wisdom" has a small "w".
iON: "Wisdom... it’s a little 'w'... it’s almost the wisdom that they could hear... "
Carolyn: "But they didn’t."
iON: "Well, time will tell."
Carolyn: "’Not as man am I
for free have I become of dimensions and planes.
In each, take I on a new body.
In each, I change in my form.
Know I now that the formless is all there is of form.’"
iON: "Now, do you understand that?"
Carolyn: "Well, formless, so... there is no physicality--"
iON: "--Well, here's the question, so I can just cut to the chase. It says, ‘formless’... you have... your bodies - your meatsacks are different, but does it say that the non-physical part is different?"
Carolyn: "No."
iON: "Don’t you find that interesting? That the quizzical part of trying to figure it all out... "
Bob: "So, you’re saying that the formless applies to the meatsacks?"
iON: "Yes, and nowhere does it say so far that it’s a different non-physical that’s plugged in... "
…
Bob: "The formless is the only stable part... the only constant."
iON: "Change is the only constant."
Carolyn: "’Great is the wisdom of the Seven.
Mighty are THEY from beyond.
Manifest THEY through their power,
filled by force from beyond.
…
Hear ye these words of wisdom.
Hear ye and make them thine own.
Find in them the formless.
Mystery is but hidden knowledge.
Know and ye shall unveil.
Find the deep buried wisdom
and be master of darkness and Light.’"
iON: "You can live in the world but not be of the world. And no matter what the meme is, it doesn’t have to have any cohesive reflection on you. That’s why we had JW call earlier to ask 'What’s the news?' And the news was 'We don’t get any news. We don’t know any news'... the sky could be falling on everyone else and you wouldn’t even notice."
Carolyn: "’Deep are the mysteries around thee,
hidden the secrets of Old.
Search through the KEYS of my WISDOM.
Surely shall ye find the way.
The gateway to power is secret,
but he who attains shall receive.
Look to the LIGHT! O my brother.
Open and ye shall receive.
Press on through the valley of darkness.
Overcome the dweller of night.
Keep ever thine eyes of the LIGHT-PLANE,
and thou shalt be One with the LIGHT.’"
iON: "Enlightenment."
Carolyn: "man is in process of changing
to forms that are not of this world."
iON: "Little 'm'… the inference is that man is changing in this world."
Carolyn: "’Grows he in time to the formless' ... So, they threw time into it again."
iON: "That’s OK, because that’s what the little 'm' is working against. Grows he in time toward the timeless - toward the timeless. So, if you are still bound by time, you can expand to the timeless.
But see, you’re ahead of that curve already because you sleep with Bob, and Bob’s been timeless for some time."
Carolyn: "’Grows he is time to the formless,
a plane on the cycle above’."
iON: "OK, there’s your slipping. There’s your slippage of what you were saying, which is correct. That straightens out your multi-worlds... "
Carolyn: "’Know ye, ye must become formless before ye are with the LIGHT,
List ye, O man, to my voice,
telling of pathways to Light,
showing the way of attainment
when ye shall be One with the Light.'
So, yeah, more directions to the little guy.
‘Search ye the mysteries of Earth's heart.
Learn of the LAW that exists,
holding the stars in their balance
by the force of the primordial mist’."
iON: "That’s the ‘Law of Attraction’."
Carolyn: "’Seek ye the flame of the EARTH'S LIFE.
Bathe in the glare of its flame.
Follow the three-cornered pathway
until thou, too, art a flame’."
iON: "'Three-cornered pathway'. Which one is that?"
Bob: "Meatsack, non-physical and mind."
iON: "Yep. Father, Son, Holy Ghost... "
Bob: "And which one’s the meatsack, the Son?"
iON: "Since you drug us there, some people are so mindful of their meatsack... you know they’re buffed up, six-and-a-half pack... for them, Father for them would be their 4% body fat deity. For other people, they don’t have any regard for their body. So, that’s interchangeable. You are the creator; you set the order. For some people it’s the sexual conquest of the chase... "
Carolyn: "’Follow the three-cornered pathway
until thou, too, art a flame.
Speak thou in words without voice
to those who dwell down below.
Enter the blue-litten temple
and bathe in the fire of all life.
Know, O man, thou art complex,
a being of earth and of fire’."
iON: "There you go. See, that’s just exactly as we were describing it. The three points can spin, but either one can be the head of the pile depending on your direction."
Carolyn: "’Know, O man, thou art complex,
a being of earth and of fire
Let thy flame shine out brightly.
Be thou only the fire’."
…
They want us to focus on the non-physical?"
iON: "That’s not necessarily the case."
Bob: "What is fire referring to?"
iON: "Fire is that cohesive, seamless bond."
Bob: "Of the three?"
iON: "Of the three, yes. Because if you get that, you’re there; then you don’t have to worry about the rules and the law."
Carolyn: "’Wisdom is hidden in darkness.
When lit by the flame of the Soul,
find thou the wisdom and be LIGHT-BORN,
a Sun of the Light without form’."
iON: "See how the pyramid spins?"
Bob: "Where’s the pyramid?"
Carolyn: "The three-cornered path… "
‘Seek thee ever more wisdom.
Find it in the heart of the flame.
Know that only by striving
and Light pour into thy brain.
Now have I spoken with wisdom.
List to my Voice and obey.
Tear open the Veils of the darkness.
Shine a LIGHT on the WAY.
Speak I of Ancient Atlantis,
speak of the days
of the Kingdom of Shadows’."
iON: "Wait. Now, do we know what they’re talking about with the Kingdom of Shadows? When Atlantis gets here, they make reference to the Egyptian pyramids. And if you take one point of the pyramid - you have three sides… you have the bottom and the two sides coming together. You have four of those that’s twelve, and you have the cap, that’s thirteen... but the capstone is the thirteenth.
And that’s thirteen tribes of Israel; that’s that point of enlightenment. And as the sun sets on those pyramids those are degrees of shadows, because as they fall off those angles, those shadows change. But that’s that ebbing and flowing of the sun rising and setting"
Bob: "So, the Kingdom of Shadows is what’s on the pyramid?"
iON: "No, the Kingdom of Shadows are the shadows that your physicalness imbibe. You got something
dirty in your past you don’t want anybody to find out about. That’s in the shadows.
It still is, but you don’t care if anybody finds out, then it’s no longer veiled. It’s unveiled.
See, you have no carnal thoughts, or fornicating processes, or murdering, lying, cheating, coveting your neighbor's ass and ox... back to that reference of the Law, remember, that you were supposed to have learned already."
Bob: "You’re saying Atlantis… that refers to the Egyptian pyramids?"
iON: "When Atlantis gets here, they use that as their reference as how they became."
…
iON: "The shadows are where the pyramid drops the sunshine of that angle... the shadows are caused by the pyramid being between the sunshine and where you are standing."
Bob: "There are these shadows going on around the pyramid... "
Carolyn: "The Kingdom of Shadows is like what the little men are stuck in."
iON: "Sometimes, yes… And you can chase the shadow around the pyramid, except for 12 o’clock when the sun is right above."
Carolyn: "’Speak I of Ancient Atlantis,
speak of the days
of the Kingdom of Shadows,
speak of the coming
of the children of shadows.
Out of the great deep were they called
by the wisdom of earth-men,
called for the purpose of gaining great power.
Far in the past before Atlantis existed,
men there were who delved into darkness,
using dark magic, calling up beings
from the great deep below us.
Forth came they into this cycle.
Formless were they of another vibration,
existing unseen by the children of earth-men.
Only through blood could they have formed being.
Only through man could they live in the world’."
Bob: "'Formless were they of another vibration’ - was that talking about little men?"
iON: "Nephilim... now wait a minute, 'Forth they came, from another vibration', that sounds like your rift activity's begun, does it not?"
Bob: "'Far in the past before Atlantis existed,
men there were who delved into darkness,
using dark magic, calling up beings'
Calling up beings - calling up Nephilim?"
iON: "Yes."
Bob: "'from the great deep below us.
Forth came they into this cycle.'
So, that means the beings?"
iON agrees.
Bob: "'existing unseen by the children'. The Nephilim weren’t seen. 'Only through blood could they have formed being'. The men need the Nephilim to exist, or to continue. Remember, they had to have the Nephilim to make the kids?"
iON: "Well, at least so Cain and Abel could find a wife."
Bob: "'Only through blood could they have formed being', meaning men, right?"
iON: "Yes, very good."
Bob: "'Only through man could they live in the world'. Only through men could the Nephilim live in the world?"
iON: "Be seen in the world."
Bob: "No, it says ‘live in the world’... "
iON: "You just got through with being seen in the world noted."
Carolyn: "Live and be seen is the same thing…
‘In ages past were they conquered by Masters,
driven below to the place whence they came.
But some there were who remained,
hidden in spaces and planes unknown to man’."
iON: "Yes. So, you had a flood to wipe them out, but it didn’t get them all."
Bob: "'in ages past were they' - is that Nephilim or man?"
Carolyn: "The Nephilim product."
iON: "Right. Were conquered by man."
Bob: "Conquered by 'Masters', which is man?"
iON: "Enlightened Man."
Bob: "After the flood?"
iON: "Yes, but some made it through the flood."
Bob: "And they aren’t the guardians for transitioning to the Guf."
iON: "No."
Carolyn: "’Lived they in Atlantis as shadows,
but at times they appeared among men.
Aye, when the blood was offered,
for they came they to dwell among men’."
Bob: "They were in the future."
iON: "Of course, but they’re giving reference to the non-physical orb creatures... dead people, angels... orbs... beams of light... refractions... peripheral vision... when the hair stands up on the back of your neck... when the phone rings and it’s a non-physical entity trying to call you. All of the hauntings; all of the ‘spookers’; all of the aspects that you create; those are the parts that were hidden, during and after the flood."
Bob: "We created the Nephilim?"
Carolyn: "Yes, we created everything."
iON: "Because otherwise, Cain and Abel would have to marry themselves. And they couldn’t figure out which one was pitching and which one was catching, so it was better to have a wife."
Bob: "So, Nephilim were created by us so... "
iON: "They came… they were called forth--"
Bob: "--By us?"
iON: "Of course, or they couldn’t be."
Bob: "So, all of this is created by the little men."
Carolyn: "Well, the dark men, I guess."
iON: "Well, you haven’t sorted out the evil ones amongst you yet, but when you get to that, then you can make that dissertation."
Bob: "But the original dimensions here were created by little man? I don’t think so. They were created by Masters, or something. I don’t know... who created the trees and the world here, Carolyn?"
iON: "Well, you got... you’re tangling up the point. They’re giving you reference dealing with little men, because they’re from the future, trying to get little men to become capital ‘M’; because if they can become capital M, then it might have a chance and can be created.
So, their reference is giving men, little men - they weren’t little men, they were marvelous creators.
They knew that, otherwise, they wouldn’t have hid the tablets, and the ones that haven’t been found yet, into the place where they could gain the knowledge; so they could become beings of invisibleness that could become into the three-pointed edge pyramid to understand how the jewels go between the different rifts and dimensions that bring them up into a place where they can then flow seamlessly into the creation of this Atlantis that everyone’s been looking for for a couple of hundred thousand years... "
Bob: "So, the future has to create human beings at a starting point, so the future can exist... "
iON: "Yes, but where did it begin?"
Bob: "That will never be determined."
iON: "If it can’t end, where did it begin?... If you could just get rid of that fucking time, you’d be on the mark... It’s the time element that draws you into the false premise, that then makes you wonder where you came from, or where you’re going, or who you are... it’s a wonder that the suicide rate isn’t more than it is."
Bob: “‘hidden in spaces and planes unknown to man.
Lived they in Atlantis as shadows,
but at times they appeared among men.
Aye, when the blood was offered,
for they came they to dwell among men’."
…
Carolyn: “'When the blood was offered,
for they came they to dwell among men'"
Bob: "Only when the blood was offered?"
Carolyn: "Well, the blood was the intermingling."
Bob: "Is that right, iON?"
iON: "Comingling."
Bob: "They haven’t made reference to the flood yet, right?"
iON: "Well, they’ve made inference to this process. We brought the flood in... Every major religion gives reference to the flood... So, it’s easy just to stir that in, because they go, 'Oh, yeah. Back then’. They don’t know when it was, but it was, 'Oh, yeah. Back then'."
Carolyn: "’Aye, when the blood was offered,
for they came they to dwell among men.
In the form of man they amongst us,
but only to sight were they as are men.
Serpent-headed when the glamour was lifted
but appearing to man as men among men.
Crept they into the Councils,
taking forms that were like unto men.
Crept they into the Councils,
taking forms that were like unto men.
Slaying by their arts
the chiefs of the kingdoms,
taking their form and ruling o'er man’."
Bob: "And this was Nephilim?"
iON: "Yes, and some Seraphim."
Bob: "And what would be the difference between Nephilim and Seraphim?"
iON: "Well, they don’t have genders, but it would be the aspect of the female and the male."
Carolyn: "’Slaying by their arts
the chiefs of the kingdoms,
taking their form and ruling o'er man.
Only by magic could they be discovered.
Only by sound could their faces be seen.
Sought they from the Kingdom of Shadows
to destroy man and rule in his place’."
Bob: "Well, see, that’s the angels. They don’t like man, so they actually came down and staged a few coups."
iON: "Yes, continually, because man was more powerful than them. Man created them... This is where man ends up creating Lucifer, one of the fallen angels. And this is that shadows of the darkness and how that all is created."
Bob: "Yeah, it’s like in ‘Blade Runner’, the clone comes back."
iON: "Precisely, precisely. Very good. And you can develop that if you want to. See, it’s all there."
Bob: "All where? Are you referring to the movie, or this, you’re referring to this and everything spins off from it?"
iON: "Yes, and explains it all pretty good, Lucy."
Bob: "These are all the stories... all of the stories of man."
Carolyn: "Yeah, all rolled into one…
'But, know ye, the Masters were mighty in magic,
able to lift the Veil from the face of the serpent,
able to send him back to his place.
Came they to man and taught him the secret,
the WORD that only a man can pronounce.
Swift then they lifted the Veil from the serpent
and cast him forth from the place among men’."
iON: "Now, you understand this is the thinning of the veil; coming into your power, you human, marvelous, delicious creator, you."
Bob: "You mean back then?"
iON: "No, but it’s now, because it’s just now coming out now. I haven’t picked anything up in Harper Row that’s said this lately."
Bob: "Right, back then they lifted the veil from the serpent."
iON: "Did they? Yes, but when did they complete that? That’s happening now, Bob."
Bob: "Wait a minute. It didn’t happen before the flood?"
iON: "No."
Bob: "So, we're talking about not then."
iON: "We're only talking about now. The then is how you got to now."
Bob: "So, the UFOs... It’s the whole popularity of the reptiles, and how people talk about the reptilian--"
iON "--h, you’re talking about the lizard people?"
Carolyn: "Yeah."
Bob: "That’s an unconscious projection of this thinning of the veil."
iON: "But they see lizard people... those Lemurians, now."
Bob: "That’s what I mean. They’re saying, now... the Queen's a lizard... they go into this... David
Icke does. But that projection of lizard people among us sounds like an aspect of the actual veil lifting."
iON: "Can be, because now all of the boogeymen - the veil lifting is as easily explained as, you tell the little boy he's got monsters under the bed, and he can't sleep because there’s monsters in his closet and under his bed.
You look every night, and he still has monsters under the bed. But you let him know that he is more powerful than the boogeyman, and he can send the boogeyman on his way.
The little kid says, 'Fine. I'll send the boogeyman on his way.' Now, he never has that trouble anymore. That’s the dumbed down version, but it works."
Bob: "But if we go back up, Carolyn, we're talking about then. And suddenly it shifted to now."
Carolyn: "No, it’s always been now."
Bob: "Well, we were talking about then."
Carolyn: "Then is when we're talking about the little men trying to learn stuff--"
iON "--to come to the big 'M'. But now we're to the big M, so you’ve got it."
Bob: "Oh, it switched when we have, 'But, know ye, the Masters were mighty in magic'?"
iON: "Yes, and that’s why we switched. We've been making note of that all the way through when we say, 'little m... then… big M', that was your switch."
Bob: "Yeah, well, let’s be precise. They go, 'Sought they from the Kingdom of Shadows to destroy man and rule in his place.' That’s the end of the little men, because the next paragraph starts with capital M, Masters."
iON: "Yes."
Bob: "So, that switches to now."
iON: "No, then was talking about now, because there are people running around now that are little m's."
Bob: "'Came they to man and taught him the secret’. That would be, the Masters came."
iON: "Yes."
Bob: "’the WORD that only a man can pronounce.
Swift then they lifted the Veil from the serpent
and cast him forth from the place among men'.
That’s where you get your boogeyman thing."
iON: "And the WORD is the power that has to be ushered by the capital M; otherwise, it doesn’t work."
Carolyn: "’Yet, beware, the serpent still liveth
in a place that is open at times to the world’."
iON: "Big ‘World’, or little ‘world’?"
Carolyn: "Little ‘world’."
iON: "There you go. Good."
Carolyn: "So, that means those bad guys are walking back and forth?"
iON: "No, that means that everybody who is a little m can still be troubled by the little serpent."
Carolyn: "’Unseen they walk among thee
in places where the rites have been said.
Again as time passes onward
shall they take the semblance of men
in places where the rites have been said.
Again as time passes onward
shall they take the semblance of men.
Called may they be by the master
who knows the white or the black,
but only the white master may control
and bind them while in the flesh’."
iON: "Yes, because what's bound on--"
Carolyn: "--No capitals anywhere."
iON: "Right, because here's the trick, what man binds on Earth shall be bound in Heaven. And what’s bound in Heaven shall be bound on Earth. That’s significant because that’s the binding part.
The point is that, in the interdimensional ranges, the only power is in man, whether he's a little m, or a capital M. And if he's powered up as a... let's do it this way, if a five-year-old has a loaded pistol, he can shoot bullets that can kill people. OK?
A grown man, or capital Man - now, I'm not saying this about children, I’m just saying that’s just a way to understand it.
A grown Man can have a gun, and shoot it and kill people. But a grown Man, enlightened, understands the dynamic of a pistol and decides that it’s not best to run around shooting folks. And they choose.
Only the capital Man can control the creation; when you’re talking a reference to the Masters. And that’s when we brought it about, being bound on earth is bound in Heaven and vice versa."
Bob: "Does this binding have something to do with the physical and non-physical united?"
iON: "Yes, that’s how you get a capital M."
Bob: "But, 'Called may they be by the master', that’s not a capital M, Master."
iON: "Well, it may be a becoming Master, because you’re still the creator and you have the power."
Bob: "’who knows the white or the black,
but only the white master may control
and bind them while in the flesh’."
iON: "Gotcha. See? Perfect."
Carolyn: "And what are you binding? Are you back to binding the three - body, mind, spirit?"
Bob: "No, angels."
iON: "Angels and everything foreign to your Earth force."
Carolyn: "And what does binding them mean?"
iON: "Well, setting them aside, 'Boogeyman, go away. Don’t live in my closet’… ‘Trouble me no more to your own peril'… 'The world can fall, but not on me’, that kind of thing. And now you see that wrapping in the now of the little man and the capital M."
Carolyn: "’Seek not the Kingdom of Shadows,
for evil will surely appear.
For only the master of brightness
shall conquer the shadow of fear.
Know ye, O my brother,
that fear is an obstacle great.
Be master of all in the brightness,
the shadow will soon disappear.
Hear ye and heed my wisdom,
the voice of LIGHT is clear.
Seek not the valley of shadow,
and LIGHT will only appear’... "
iON: "Enlightenment. Very good... "
Bob: "Is enlightenment tactile-visceral... intergalactic? This phrase, ‘tactile-visceral'--"
iON "--Can be. But, see, that depends on if you’re asking from the aspect of a little m or a capital M. See? So, that's perfect. It’s a good way to explain it."
Carolyn: "Do you want to explain it for the record?"
iON: "Well, we did already."
Bob: "Yeah, tactile-visceral for both little man or big Man, either one, is enlightenment. There’s tactile-visceral with the present for little man and big Man, but only tactile-visceral for the other planes by capital M, Man"
iON: "Gotcha. Good, Bob. If we ever call in sick you could take over…"
Carolyn: "Now, I don’t get that."
Bob: "We talk about tactile-visceral engagement with the present. It’s like living actively/non-actively in the present. You're tapped in, tuned in, turned on."
iON: "Well, let’s get it to an example... here we go, you're coming along, everything’s going good, you're clicking along, and the next thing you know, 14,000 emails go into the abyss.
And you're like, 'Wait a second. I’m the creator. I own this. This is my thing. I have to stop, drop and roll if I'm on fire.'
Now, you might be a capital M, and you might be a little m, but either way, you notice that the 14,000 emails aren't there. And when you give your undivided attention to that, then if you're a capital M, then it’s just a matter of simply relaxing and allowing and letting it work itself out.
And if it’s a little m, then it can be pressure, contrast, problems, 'Oh, my god. I must have lived badly. This is karma coming to destroy my very beingness.' You see what I'm saying? The little m's reference of, 'Well, I was bad, therefore bad things come to me.'...
Or, if it's a capital M, you know it wasn't personal. We just need to distract ourselves, or find something else that’s the fastest path to our joy, ‘because I know those 14,000 emails will be in the last place I look’.
So, then you take dominion from the other plane, and it works itself out. Then it’s just a little span in your continuum, and it basically slows things down long enough for you to catch up with all that is. So, then you come into a place of going, 'OK, good. Now, next step – let’s have a website'."
Carolyn: "OK, you said, 'Now you take dominion from the other plane'?"
iON: "Well, because... Bob was giving reference to the capital M's are the only ones that can manifest in the other planes. Well, you’ve got to be a capital M to do that, or you'll have no causal effect on the different tactile planes…"
Carolyn: "So, the capital Men... are the only ones who can manifest in the other plane and the little man can’t... "
Bob: "But we're saying that capital Man has more comprehensive tactile-visceral engagement with reality. Little man, when he's feeling really tapped in, turned on, he thinks he’s tactile-visceral, or that’s the term we refer to – they’re 'living in the moment'… they think they're grooving."
iON: "Well, they are in their moment. And it’s as good as they want it, so that’s good enough."
Bob: "And if they get a problem, little tactile-visceral man 1-2-3's it. Capital Man, in this
world, 3-2-1's it."
iON: "When you’re able to do that with any type of tenacity, to slip through other dimensions becomes just as easy as choosing to go to the beach, or not to go to the beach."
…
Carolyn: "’List ye, O man,
to the depth of my wisdom.
Speak I of knowledge hidden from man.
Far have I been
on my journey through SPACE-TIME,
even to the end of space of this cycle.
Aye, glimpsed the HOUNDS of the Barrier’."
Bob: "This is the fear of going to other worlds."
Carolyn: "’lying in wait for he who would pass them.
In that space where time exists not,
faintly I sensed the guardians of cycles.
Move they only through angles.
Free are they not of the curved dimensions’."
iON: "Now, do you see why we did the thirteen angles?"
Bob: "This is like JW being fearful for Carolyn going into the rift. Similar theme... So, he was saying, 'Well, you’ve got to be careful. You might project the hounds into your reality.'... So, I'm just saying, the 'HOUNDS of the Barrier' are projections of our own fear. Right? You agree with that?"
iON: "No, because it’s a capital H."
Bob: "What’s that mean?"
iON: "Well, they're enlightened HOUNDS."
Bob: "They’re there to help you."
iON: "Well, they are, in that aspect, absolutely. Eyes wide open, then you’re good. But that’s not exactly what we're talking about here. But rather than undo creation, let’s let it flow, and then we'll get back to there, promise."
Carolyn: "’Strange and terrible
are the HOUNDS of the Barrier.
Follow they consciousness to the limits of space.
Think not to escape by entering your body,
for follow they fast the Soul through angles.
Only the circle will give ye protection,
save from the claws
of the DWELLERS IN ANGLES’.
So, you have to stay in your non-physical when you’re doing this stuff."
iON: "Exactly. And you can take your physicalness with you, but you’ve got to do it in the circles rather than in the angles."
Bob: "Why do you say... what stuff are you doing in the non-physical?"
Carolyn: "Travel."
Bob: "Well, that’s a given... Carolyn is taken by the fact that she’s... not taking her physical."
iON: "Well, she can take the physical, as long as she stays in the loop... the circles: the infinity loop. But if you use the angles, then you’ve got to put that in the shadows, and do it only through non-physical.
And that’s like any creation - sometimes you can do it in your mind before you do it in your physical... "
Bob: "What are the 'DWELLERS IN ANGLES'?"
iON: "It’s you… we say that’s you, but if you’re not fear-based, then there's not much that's not uncovered in the LIGHT. Then it becomes a capital M, and now that’s a whole different conversation. You can see dead people, and it doesn’t mean they’ve come to take over your life... "
Carolyn: "’Once, in a time past,
I approached the great Barrier,
and saw on the shores where time exists not,
the formless forms
of the HOUNDS of the barrier.
Aye, hiding in the midst beyond time I found them;
and THEY, scenting me afar off,
raised themselves and gave the great bell cry
that could be heard from cycle to cycle
and moved through space toward my soul’."
Bob: "Imagine people reading this in hundreds of years. And they’d say, oh, imaging it's a trick. It makes the person project ‘HOUNDS of the Barrier’ at the edges, and you have to have a clear mind not to be afraid of that."
Carolyn: "And think of the Harry Potter stories that had the hounds."
iON: "Hark, hark the dogs do bark."
Carolyn: "’Fled I then fast before them,
back from time's unthinkable end’."
Bob: "See, he can’t handle the end of time."
iON: "Because there’s not one."
Bob: "Yeah, but he can’t handle that; so, the fear of time stopping is a projection of the dogs."
Carolyn: "’But ever after me pursued they,
moving in strange angles not known to man.
Aye, on the gray shores of TIME-SPACE'S end
found I the HOUNDS of the Barrier,
ravening for the Soul
who attempts the beyond’.
And what’s all of this fear-based stuff?"
Bob: "Well, you have to go through it. If you read this and believe it, and you’re inside it and don’t understand any of what you’ve learned, then you'll be subject to this fear."
iON: "Exactly. So, you get to the other side and you don’t know how to get back."
Bob: "So, you overcome your fear--"
iON "--Before you go."
Bob: "Yeah, and you’ve got to say, 'Oh, I'll be able to handle the hounds'."
Carolyn: "’I am pure of heart’…
‘Fled I through circles back to my body.
Fled, and fast after me they followed.
Aye, after me the devourers followed,
seeking through angles to devour my Soul.
Aye, know ye man,
that the Soul who dares the Barrier
may be held in bondage
by the HOUNDS from beyond time,
held till this cycle is completed
and left behind
when the consciousness leaves’."
Bob: "That’s the joke 'beyond time', as if there is time."
iON: "Right. Good."
Bob: "It’s a trick. It’s a concept you have to get through. They’re testing to see if you know there’s no time, or that you will experience no time."
iON: "Right."
Carolyn: "’may be held in bondage
by the HOUNDS from beyond time,
held till this cycle is completed
and left behind
when the consciousness leaves.
Entered I my body.
Created the circles that know not angles,
created the form
that from my form was formed.
Made my body into a circle
and lost the pursuers in the circles of time.
But, even yet, when free from my body,
cautious ever must I be
not to move through angles,
else my soul may never be free.
Know ye, the HOUNDS of the Barrier
move only through angles
and never through curves of space.
Only by moving through curves
can ye escape them,
for in angles they will pursue thee.
O man, heed ye my warning;
Seek not to break open
the gate to beyond.
Few there are
who have succeeded in passing the Barrier
to the greater LIGHT that shines beyond.
For know ye, ever the dwellers,
seek such Souls to hold in their thrall’."
Bob: "Yeah... a month or two ago, iON mentioned curved time, curved dimension... "
iON: "Right."
Carolyn: "’Listen, O man, and heed ye my warning;
seek ye to move not in angles but curves,
And if while free from thy body,
though hearest the sound like the bay of a hound
ringing clear and bell-like through thy being,
flee back to thy body through circles,
penetrate not the midst mist before.
When thou hath entered the form thou hast dwelt in,
use thou the cross and the circle combined.
Open thy mouth and use thou thy Voice.
Utter the WORD and thou shalt be free.
Only the one who of LIGHT has the fullest
can hope to pass by the guards of the way.
And then must he move
through strange curves and angles
that are formed in direction not known to man.
List ye, O man, and heed ye my warning:
attempt not to pass the guards on the way.
Rather should ye seek to gain of thine own Light
and make thyself ready to pass on the way.
LIGHT is thine ultimate end, O my brother.
Seek and find ever the Light on the way’.
The end."
Bob: "See, they create the disease of the hounds, and then offered a cure: the circles."
iON: "With the little m, yes."
Bob: "They create... here's a problem, and here is a solution. But you realize you don’t even need the solution if you’re a big Man."
iON: "You understand there is no problem."
Bob: "Yeah, but they are saying, 'there is a problem' and 'here is a solution to guide you through, but some day you’re going to have to realize there is no problem'... "
…
Bob: "It says the 'DWELLERS IN ANGLES', and you go... that's all of your skeletons and ghosts, and you get around them through the curves. And then you think of Einstein's curved space; and it’s like Einstein is establishing that space is curved, but he's actually operating within this disease-solution situation and uncovering curveness as an antidote to the Newtonian angles... is there more to do on this, iON? I think you said this would be, 'the key of mystery'."
iON: "It is."
Bob: "What is the overall plan of this tablet? Moving from little man to big Man?"
iON: "That’s the main one."
Bob: "And then there’s this whole issue of the HOUNDS before you can become capital M, Man."
iON: "The HOUNDS are your path to guide you."
Bob: "Right. And it’s what you are cautious of. But you need to go through the fear of the HOUNDS and the need for the circles to become capital M…” ]]
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